Ok call Me Insane Here - craving simplicity again

Oscar F · Post by **Oscar F** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:11 am

I have been going back to older versions of Live.
Call Me Insane but I would Kill for a Dual Core Version of Live 3 with the extra FX devices of Live 6 and PDC and Follow Actions on Audio Clips.
Crazy I know but I am really diggin' how minimal and back to basics the whole package is.
No Midi or VSTi but hey it's great for Jamming real time with Reason 3 and on various instruments guitar/bass etc and just slamming out ideas and audio based compositions super fast.
In all honesty I like the elegance and simplicity of Version 3.
I seem to work much faster in it with my own material also.
It's nice just working with raw audio and vst effects + and audio editor and flip flopping between session and arranger view.
Much fun indeed and then some.
I tend to work differently using Reaktor as a Standalone app also then rendering audio and importing it into Live.
After going backwards I find myself being rather creative with clip envelopes and the like in V3 also.
It just feels wonderfully bloat free and like a breath of fresh air to me at least anyway.

pix · Post by **pix** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:23 am

that's cool! I understand that perfectly.

After a while I came to the conclusion that complexity should be left for your instruments, and DAWs should be the most straightforward as possible.

I'm on the verge of getting some softsynths again actually but I'm getting 2nd thoughts if it's the best way to go...been there, done that...(at least 3x...)

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:33 am

I want me Tascam Portastudio back

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:37 am

I ran v.3 a little while ago to check something...

got freaked out pretty fast and had to close it.

but I know what you're saying

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:31 am

I'd kill for a UB release of 4.1.4

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:34 am

sorry to ask the obvious but what is in the way in 6 that cant be hidden to make it "feel" like 3? cant 6 be used as if it was 3?

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:37 am

...regarding 4.1.4, its not feature-set...but stability I crave. 4.1.4 was rock solid.
using strictly session view....as an elaborate sampler...

6 is crashy, on my machine at least.

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:30 pm

yeah, they should really make a downstripped version with only audio. For cheap. That runs like charm even on older machines. Or on mobile phones. hehe. Something like Live3 but with autowarp, effect racks etc. No simpler, no impulse, no vst instruments. Only audiofilemangling.
You could use it for all kinds of DJing, playbacks, radio, podcasts ....

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:43 pm

that works for the DJs among us or those who plan on doing a lot of rewiring but the only reason I bought Live was because it had implemented MIDI and is improving it's functionality, hosting vsts and stuff like racks. This is why I jumped on board for Live 6 and was using Cubase for years prior to that, everybody to their own. Live 3 and below would not have worked out for me and what I need as a musician who creates complex electronica/electrorock/ambient sounds that are 90% self created with very few samples and in the region typically of 30-45 tracks.

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:13 pm

pepezabala wrote:yeah, they should really make a downstripped version with only audio. For cheap. That runs like charm even on older machines. Or on mobile phones. hehe. Something like Live3 but with autowarp, effect racks etc. No simpler, no impulse, no vst instruments. Only audiofilemangling.
You could use it for all kinds of DJing, playbacks, radio, podcasts ....

Not a bad idea

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:38 pm

pepezabala wrote:yeah, they should really make a downstripped version with only audio. For cheap. That runs like charm even on older machines. Or on mobile phones. hehe. Something like Live3 but with autowarp, effect racks etc. No simpler, no impulse, no vst instruments. Only audiofilemangling.
You could use it for all kinds of DJing, playbacks, radio, podcasts ....

agreed, circa V3 or V4. It was rock solid.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:35 pm

pepezabala wrote:yeah, they should really make a downstripped version with only audio.

That would require acknowledgeing that the real version, sans utilization of other features was insufficient.

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:04 pm

dpel wrote:
pepezabala wrote:yeah, they should really make a downstripped version with only audio. For cheap. That runs like charm even on older machines. Or on mobile phones. hehe. Something like Live3 but with autowarp, effect racks etc. No simpler, no impulse, no vst instruments. Only audiofilemangling.
You could use it for all kinds of DJing, playbacks, radio, podcasts ....
agreed, circa V3 or V4. It was rock solid.

Oh yes! Crazy idea it seemed when I read it first but after some thinking seriously, changed my mind. I wouldn't miss any of the "new" functionalities (like mp3 support), the worst midi of all DAW, I didnt bother to comment on the other thread about the Live`s infamous note "1". Reason has such horrible sequencer but still I am using it and exporting or rewire because Live midi sequencing is unusable for recording, unless quantized bis es gehts nicht mehr
Yes, to "Live classic" ver.3 or 4 with dual core support.

me_lindsay · Post by **me_lindsay** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:00 am

Agreed, simplicity with an application such as live rules.

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:33 am

b0unce wrote:...regarding 4.1.4, its not feature-set...but stability I crave. 4.1.4 was rock solid.
using strictly session view....as an elaborate sampler...

+ fuckin 1