for anyone who's ever considered a monome

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:48 pm

for anyone whos considering a monome.
I got my 128 about a week ago, I had seen tons of videos and it looks really interesting (obviously) but over the month of waiting for it to arrive (a f*ing month can you believe it took that long?) I started worrying that it would just be another one of my toys laying around collecting dust and not something that truely inspires me as I was hoping it would.

then it arrived and I tried to set it up, which admittedly was a pain in the ass. several days went by and I played with mlr a little bit which was neet but I hadn't yet got it working very well with live and I was waiting for someone on the monome site to help me get it set up right.

well to cut this story a little shorter. I decided to use my brain in setting up the monome in my own way, originally planning on using chuck or max appz that people were sharing but I ended up setting it up in a rather unusual way using monochrome (monome enabled vst) and a virtual midi port and bomes midi translater. and now I'm in beat juggling city. and I just came to post that if you're considering a monome, well, it's the f*ing shiznit of all shitter bongers and you should get your hands on one asap.
the end.

adverbialsensationalist · Post by **adverbialsensationalist** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:51 pm

64h's sold out in like 2 mins. Pissed me off. Until next time, in jealousy I wait.

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:03 pm

hey john i've been contemplating one for a bit and it sounds like you might be just the person to ask, have you felt at all that it's a bit much to get into just for juggling breaks and stuff, I know it's a very subjective question i'm just not sure how to guage
it, do you feel like you're having a musical experience that you couldn't have had with-out it or do you feel like you're just having musical fun but a gadgetry experience

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvi · Post by **EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvi** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:03 pm

You should try them with a laptops too! it helps a dozen time

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:43 pm

I waivered back and forth on the monome for the same reasons but when I decided to go for it I got shafted with the 2 minute sell out. I'll be looking for them on ebay in a couple weeks, not to buy one, but to see what scumbucket is selling them on there for a profit. There's no way 100 individuals all got their orders processed in under 2 minutes.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:46 pm

beats me wrote:I waivered back and forth on the monome for the same reasons but when I decided to go for it I got shafted with the 2 minute sell out. I'll be looking for them on ebay in a couple weeks, not to buy one, but to see what scumbucket is selling them on there for a profit. There's no way 100 individuals all got their orders processed in under 2 minutes.

lol @ your madness

are you that apalomba guy over at monome.org ? asking if some guy could buy 50 monomes ? ..
lol

*tug*
*tug*
*stroke*
*tug*
*grind*
*GRIND*
*tug*
*tickle*
*tug*
*tug*
*tug*
.
.
.
***GUSH***

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:54 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:for anyone whos considering a monome.
I got my 128 about a week ago, I had seen tons of videos and it looks really interesting (obviously) but over the month of waiting for it to arrive (a f*ing month can you believe it took that long?) I started worrying that it would just be another one of my toys laying around collecting dust and not something that truely inspires me as I was hoping it would.

then it arrived and I tried to set it up, which admittedly was a pain in the ass. several days went by and I played with mlr a little bit which was neet but I hadn't yet got it working very well with live and I was waiting for someone on the monome site to help me get it set up right.

well to cut this story a little shorter. I decided to use my brain in setting up the monome in my own way, originally planning on using chuck or max appz that people were sharing but I ended up setting it up in a rather unusual way using monochrome (monome enabled vst) and a virtual midi port and bomes midi translater. and now I'm in beat juggling city. and I just came to post that if you're considering a monome, well, it's the f*ing shiznit of all shitter bongers and you should get your hands on one asap.
the end.

I'd love to know how you set yours up. I have been using the Chuck stuff for a minute and I like it, but I can only imagine what king of unthinkable things people are thinking up.

Video? That would be the balls.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:54 pm

b0unce wrote:
beats me wrote:I waivered back and forth on the monome for the same reasons but when I decided to go for it I got shafted with the 2 minute sell out. I'll be looking for them on ebay in a couple weeks, not to buy one, but to see what scumbucket is selling them on there for a profit. There's no way 100 individuals all got their orders processed in under 2 minutes.
lol @ your madness

are you that apalomba guy over at monome.org ? asking if some guy could buy 50 monomes ? ..
lol

*tug*
*tug*
*stroke*
*tug*
*grind*
*GRIND*
*tug*
*tickle*
*tug*
*tug*
*tug*
.
.
.
***GUSH***

The irony here is that just the day before you and I were discussing that I wasn't going to try to get one.....but then the competition factor got the better of me. No, I didn't post anything on the monome forum. I figured there probably is already enough people crying about it on there and I don't join forums of things I don't own just so I can cry about it.

It was annoying but at the same time I don't think I will give it a try again. It isn't THAT cool. I've already got enough cool things to distract me from actually completing a song.

Cheers to anyone who got one though.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:59 pm

EgAD wrote:hey john i've been contemplating one for a bit and it sounds like you might be just the person to ask, have you felt at all that it's a bit much to get into just for juggling breaks and stuff, I know it's a very subjective question i'm just not sure how to guage
it, do you feel like you're having a musical experience that you couldn't have had with-out it or do you feel like you're just having musical fun but a gadgetry experience

actually the first day was very disappointing, I was sick that day so that didn't help the matter but I had a hell of a time getting it set up porperlly to do anything (gotta have latest max installed, I had an older version, gotta have quicktime installed... so on so forth) so for most of the first day it didn't do a damn thing and I was frustrated.

but once I figured that crap out I started using mlr. it wasn't instant love or anything but it was kinda enjoyable. it wasn't until I set up a live set that perfectly mimiks mlr that I realised the potential of this thing. to set it up for that was a real bitch (like 6 hours cause I did it in my own way using bomes and monochrome n' virtual routings) , for a while there I was actually even worried that I was in over my head, but now that I've got it set up I go into live with the intention of making loops to jungle.

doesn't feel like musical fun with gadgetry. I was worried that it would actually cause alot of the appz I've seen videos of just seem like "k.... neeto" and I haven't even tried most of those appz because of that. but the beautiful thing is, it is whatever you make it, and I couldn't play my music this way with any other device.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:02 am

you know nothing about monome.org if you entertain the notion that they sold 50+ units to one person

*edited to put emphasis on the word 'nothing'*

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:02 am

you don't need the latest max installed, I'm still on 4.6.

you need Quicktime installed to run Live anyway.

must've been other problems.

max is odd to program but ultimately it just generates midi data into and out of Live. it uses the UDP protocol (just like IP but it's bit bashing, it doesn't check to see if packets make it to the other end, it's audio, it doesn't matter, just keep going.)

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:08 am

Tone Deft wrote:you don't need the latest max installed, I'm still on 4.6.

k so apparently you need 4.6 or higher, I had 4.5 and it didn't work, took me forever to figure out why it wasn't working. kept going through preferences in max and settings on monoserial thinking "if I click the right spot this thing is probably gonna do something"

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:11 am

Johnisfaster wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:you don't need the latest max installed, I'm still on 4.6.
k so apparently you need 4.6 or higher, I had 4.5 and it didn't work, took me forever to figure out why it wasn't working. kept going through preferences in max and settings on monoserial thinking "if I click the right spot this thing is probably gonna do something"

I'd still be to differ, but I'm far from knowing what I'm talking about.

as long as you have a version of max that has working "UDPReceive" and "UDPSend" objects it shouldn't be a problem.

shouldn't...

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:14 am

Tone Deft wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:you don't need the latest max installed, I'm still on 4.6.
k so apparently you need 4.6 or higher, I had 4.5 and it didn't work, took me forever to figure out why it wasn't working. kept going through preferences in max and settings on monoserial thinking "if I click the right spot this thing is probably gonna do something"
I'd still be to differ, but I'm far from knowing what I'm talking about.

as long as you have a version of max that has working "UDPReceive" and "UDPSend" objects it shouldn't be a problem.

shouldn't...

thats exactly what I thought tone, but apparently something changed between 4.5 and 4.6 that fouled something up. I finally started searching their forums and discovered that 4.5 didn't work with monoserial. maybe 4.5 works with serolio (the old style of monoserial)

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:17 am

oh shit... thanks for that nugget, I'll look into it, maybe there's a reason the learning curve has been STEEP.

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