Is it weird to perform a style you hate?

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Is it weird to perform a style you hate?

Post by lis102trants » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:09 am

I've got an odd question I can't seem to answer for myself. I love trance and electronic music, and I'm primarily a drummer. After watching KJ Sawka and Anders Meinhardt for the first time (on youtube), I fell in love with jungle and drum n' bass drumming, but I hate the genre. I can't stand more than 3 minutes of Dieselboy or anything similar to it. Is this strange? Does anyone else have a similar story?

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Post by northernlight » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:11 am

there's so much more than dieselboy in drum'n'bass

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Post by lis102trants » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 am

lol I know.. just in general though. There are a few artists I dig, but I usually stay far away from the DnB rooms at raves.

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Post by Emissary » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:46 am

interesting point, i somtimes write music in genres i dont paticularly like, Garage or heavy metal or sometimes folk, and often i have much more fun doing it as I give it no respect, unfortunately through writing in those genres from time to time i have also grown to love and respect them, I keep having to find genres i hate to have fun :lol:

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Post by substaticnz » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:38 pm

"there's so much more than dieselboy in drum'n'bass"

I have to underline this, no disrespect to dieselboy but alot of his music has very little intresting drumming. its just stright boom, cha.

I think if u try explore a little bit deeper u might find somthing u like, (like everything) theres alot more to it then what u see on the surface.

I like a group called shapeshifter (http://www.shapeshifter.co.nz/) they have a live drummer and hes quite a champ. give it a go and tell us what u think...
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Post by OvertoneZero » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:00 pm

Jungle beats are amazingly fun to play on the drumkit, no shame in that my friend.. 8)

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Post by ethios4 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:16 pm

Mix those drum-n-bass drumming styles over trance beats and you will have some wickidly dance-able music going on.

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Re: Is it weird to perform a style you hate?

Post by Khazul » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:37 pm

lis102trants wrote:I've got an odd question I can't seem to answer for myself. I love trance and electronic music, and I'm primarily a drummer. After watching KJ Sawka and Anders Meinhardt for the first time (on youtube), I fell in love with jungle and drum n' bass drumming, but I hate the genre. I can't stand more than 3 minutes of Dieselboy or anything similar to it. Is this strange? Does anyone else have a similar story?
Pretty much the same here - trance/electro house etc is my thing and Im also a drummer. Most of my drumming is breaks, d&b or tribal/jungle type stuff as well.

Its basically that the rhythms in those genres are good - the music that gets plasterred over them however generally sux. Actually I quite like some of the early pioneering D&B.

Also as someone said some of those beats mixed with regular 4/4 dance beats work really well.
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Post by eisnein » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:43 pm

yeah, why not just bring some of those elements that you like into styles you do enjoy- therefore creating a new style totally your own.....unless you want to limit yourself to exploring one genre and then i just dont what to tell you!
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Post by Brkhlk » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:45 pm

i don't like that newer drum n bass, too. i prefer "golden age" dnb from the mid nineties, which is slower and more breaky. Stuff like old photek, source direct, paradox, good looking,… check out some of them and have a listen.



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Post by Machinate » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:50 pm

You don't hate the "style" - like you said, you love that kind of drumming, and the general feel of it all - you just hate the current crop of bad music out there. No harm in that - that is part of the reason why you HAVE to perform it, to change things.

I love live electronic music, but hate the current crop of "I am really just a dj, you know"-"Live" acts out there... that is the reason why I feel obligated to change things up and make a "market" for myself, really.

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Post by beats me » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:03 pm

If I were a real drummer I would probably fall asleep playing straight house or trance, not a lot of variations going on there. I'm one of those non drummers that owns vdrums for whatever reason and I still fall asleep playing to house tracks. It's fun for about 10 minutes.

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Re: Is it weird to perform a style you hate?

Post by Hervé » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:15 pm

lis102trants wrote:I've got an odd question I can't seem to answer for myself. I love trance and electronic music, and I'm primarily a drummer. After watching KJ Sawka and Anders Meinhardt for the first time (on youtube), I fell in love with jungle and drum n' bass drumming, but I hate the genre. I can't stand more than 3 minutes of Dieselboy or anything similar to it. Is this strange? Does anyone else have a similar story?
funny, i'm reallly not into d&b, but the first live in this genre i saw was with a real drummer. really inspiring. double kick, 4 snares and 10 others custom builds percus instruments. All the kit was on microphonesd and passed trough some fxs and a mixer on the front end twicked by the drummer himself.

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Post by v00d00ppl » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:33 pm

if i get paid to dj music i hate. I can't complain, it pays the bills. In order to eat sometimes you have to swallow your pride.
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Post by lis102trants » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:37 pm

Very good points all around. Especially being a drummer and finding the jungle beats fun to play, it makes sense with all of the syncopation and variety. And substaticnz, thanks for the tip on shapeshifter. I'm diggin' the sound. I like the kind of DnB with trebly sounds, piano riffs, absynthy pads and all that good stuff, without too much of the groaning, drowning basslines.

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