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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:04 am

he is an attention whore.

doesn't bother me though.

i dont give shit.


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Post by forge » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:05 am

you're probably right it's the shitty miserable weather where you are

pretty nice where I am :wink:

some people just thrive on hostility - it's why we have the troll blocker

once you start using it it's surprisingly effective because you occasionally unblock people to see if they are starting to offer anything worthwhile and they pretty much always arent

sometimes I look at the blank X and wonder what the fuck I'm doing and why do I care enough to block anyone, but it's actually kind of like when you have a really irritating dog next door that doesnt stop barking at every fucking thing that moves - if you had a mute button for it you'd use it

TITBAG is one I havent blocked though because he actually makes me laugh

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Post by hangar17 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:07 am

i come from a mothership unknown to man (ok im drunk again)
I fell down the musical stairs at the science museum.
It went like : C F# B D Ab A#5 E D B A THUD!

we are airfields
this is hangar 17

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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:09 am

hangar17 wrote:i come from a mothership unknown to man (ok im drunk again)
take me with you.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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Post by dcease » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:11 am

forge wrote:
TITBAG is one I havent blocked though because he actually makes me laugh
that dude is great. i'd like to write a song with him. and what is up with his infatuation of that british soap star?!

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Post by hangar17 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:12 am

Tone Deft wrote:
hangar17 wrote:i come from a mothership unknown to man (ok im drunk again)
take me with you.
aye aye kapitan!
to the southern hemisphere we go!
I fell down the musical stairs at the science museum.
It went like : C F# B D Ab A#5 E D B A THUD!

we are airfields
this is hangar 17

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Post by SimonPHC » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:15 am

it's just winter, that's all.

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Post by Poster » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:24 am

nebulae wrote:
thefool wrote:
that's pretty PG IMO. just trying to lighten the mood. I understand.
Yeah its just that when you are browsing known threads i don't mind if people are in the room but if you meet bouncing tits etc..
What if you were to wear this t-shirt to help explain yourself...

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Post by ThrowAway » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:48 am

djadonis206 wrote:Who does the rap lyric

"I N D E P E N D E N T / do you know whut dat means!"
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Post by b0unce » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:29 am

Tone Deft wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:You basically posted a thread accusing people at NAMM of not paying enough attention to you.
that's so wrong. he was suprised they didn't pay more attention to ANYONE who wandered into the booth. he plainly stated that he walked up like some regular Joe and there wasn't the meet and greet atmosphere. he was excited to meet the booth folk and they were non-plussed to meet ANYONE.
That's just a shallow smoke-screen, you'd really have to excercise a little self-delusion to swallow that. I can understand why you would, but uh...most other people see right through it.

what was the point of starting that thread in the forum if not to put ableton on the spot ? He knew exactly what he was doing, and it wasn't a kind favour/helpful advise imo. Believe me, I know all about starting threads to put ableton on the spot when I'm not satisfied with something and I can smell my own. And that thread REAKED of him feeling personally slighted and it REAKED of putting ableton PR on the spot, during NAMM week. But I digress, most people saw right through it.
btw it wasn't the fact he started a thread of complaint, but WHY he started the thread: not enough attention. stupid thing to get annoyed about.

Tone Deft wrote:
You ask for, receive, and require a lot of attention from people on this forum.
you don't get Neb at all. reading is a passive action, read what you want, troll block who you want, respond to who you want. neb does his best to make this place weird, he actively works to make this place what it is.
really ?....all it seems like to me is a bunch of middle aged losers flirting with each other. seriously, that's EXACTLY what it looks like. You've been flogging that 'tee hee let's pretend we're gay gag' for ...for as long as neb's been around infact.
The gags are repetitive & sanitised & boring as hell. Not only that, what kind of cunt has his wife sign up to join OT discussions ?.....get yourself a chatroom fellas.
Tone Deft wrote:
It comes with the territory of being an attention whore, not that that's a major crime, and nothing I'm posting here is said to generate hostility from you, but you seem actually to be convinced that somehow the forum has become more hostile when in fact it hasn't. You personally just generated more adoration and repulsion in the last few weeks than you normally do, that's all.
you soooo don't get nebulae. he's a cheerleader, he likes the vibe here and makes it a point to shout "hey, it's Friday, let's get stupid together!"
ya, over and over and over. It's old, and 99% of the time it descends into homo-erotic flirtation. Not that I'm homophobic, but man ...it's just not funny when you do it all the time, incessantly. I wish I was exagerrating but sadly I'm not. So ya, he can do it if he likes, and the same 12 assholes can have a barrel of laughs while they ignore their family and flirt with each other, but don't expect it to NOT rub people up the wrong way...doesn't matter how much 'wholesome' fun you derive from it. seriously, get real. not everyone is down with your brand of drivel. and bear in mind I leave you to your drivel in your threads. 99.9% of the time.
Tone Deft wrote: the forum has been more hostile, you should point that finger at myself and others, not neb. I really don't think you're paying attention.
Neb's preaching provokes hostility, and his incessant OT shenanigans just make him out to be a total douche to me. and really, the day I encourage the person I dump my goo in to join this forum to talk OT is the day I ...well, that's just not going to happen.
Tone Deft wrote:
I know you're personally not a fan of b0unce
who? non-sequitur, he chased some of us into completely ignoring him (and vice versa) and we're ALL better off (bounce included, I hope he's happier ignoring me, truly.) he does what he does in his way, neb does what he does, you do what you do, who cares? there's no comparing. b0unce is b0unce and that's another part of this weird freak show that draws people here, we self moderate, try to keep the bad vibes down and co-exist.
LOL...the way I remember it there was about 5 threads baiting me, mocking my mother, my creed, my intelligence, my looks, my sex life...everything. HEHE! no biggy, none at all, but it sucks when you pick those kinds of arguments with someone who is much better at it than you - doesn't it ?
And from the first moment I ushered in the troll script, and troll script MKII, you guys had the wrong idea.....'oh great, we can't see b0unce...woo, wee hee' ...but the reality of the situation was you fuckers stopped baiting me for the things I would ordinarily say. The reality was YOU stopped picking losing battles with me. Again, you've got to excercise a little self-delusion to pick it up the way you homos did. and it saddens me that forge is often forgotten when you guys throw high-fives around the place when talking about the script, was his baby to begin with. But really, I'm the daddy of the troll script, I refined it. MKII is all mine, bitches. Only I don't see it as a troll script, just some blinkers you twats placed upon yourself.
Tone Deft wrote:
One last thing, no offense, but you and a few other here are under the impression that it's somehow possible to legislate your own version of morality on the forum, but my version of ethics and yours are different, (see above) so IMO this forum does fine unmoderated, by consensus or otherwise.
and more bullshit. neb is not at all dictating ethics, he's just asking wtf is up with all the bad vibes lately. jesus christ, the whole self-moderation thing has been beat to death, who doesn't know that yet? if you don't like someone or something, troll block them and don't bump threads you don't like. you're STILL whining over people trying to dictate behavior, that's not going to happen, the rest of the forum gets it, catch up. this is the same flag you've been carrying forever, that's long since been over.
He's right tho, he is bang on the button. It's probably subconscious behaviour on your part tho. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Tone Deft wrote:
TL;DR No Neb it's you, you're generating more hostility and praise etc. lately, not the forum. :wink:
nope, neb's been pretty damn quiet lately.
Doh! you're not that dense.


anyways, just another thread to add to the collection.
"NAMM guys didn't hug me"
"Porn bots make it hard to ignore my kids"

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Re: why all the hostility?

Post by signal » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:15 am

Tone Deft wrote: you soooo don't get nebulae. he's a cheerleader, he likes the vibe here and makes it a point to shout "hey, it's Friday, let's get stupid together!"
That's "vibe" the same way the 300 lb guy at an office I worked at would squeeze himself into the same tiny tie dyed t-shirt every Friday to drive home the point that he was hip and relaxed and knew how to scare up some vibe, damn it. Setting aside, of course, that the company never had a dress code to rebel against in the first place.

Middle-aged, middle class boredom playing itself out daily in the form of a relentless string of man love quips and terribly clever hip hop slang from 1992 isn't a sign of the end times, it's just really tedious to witness.

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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:15 am

i gotta say it:


nice hand, good game.
ship it to b0unce.


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Post by Winston » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:37 am

I've sen it waayyy more hostile in here. A few times. Don't you guys remember that time evryone was posting a thread about how much they hated someone else, or a poll about so and so being a wanker etc etc.? It always seems to happen just before the next update to Live is announced. Then upon release, everyone's friends again.

No, we're about 10 or 12 months away from the most hostile it will be in here this year. Soak up the good cheer friends.

That said, this thread is causing quite the stir, ironically.

So much cold hard honesty flying around, I can't even handle it! :P

Get it all out fellas, you'll all be closer in the end. :wink:

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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:01 am

go fuck yourself.


you would get mad at someone too if they kept saying the same bullshit over and over again in the face of evidence to the contrary. oh, but i'm the bad guy. fuck you. how's that for some hostility. don't fuck with me.


btw, thanks a lot guys, not a single one of you motherfuckers had my back in that shit even though you knew i was right. If just one of the other regular posters would have supported me in that I wouldn't have snapped and made that poll that i have to hear about over and over again. fucking bullshit. but that guy was your buddy, so what if he's spreading complete bullshit, "he's a nice guy" and i'm an asshole. really. fuck you guys and your little club. thanks. I'm terrible because i give a shit when people say false things about a subject in a pubic area that is for disseminating information on that very subject. horseshit.



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Post by Machinesworking » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:48 am

bounce wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:
You ask for, receive, and require a lot of attention from people on this forum.
you don't get Neb at all. reading is a passive action, read what you want, troll block who you want, respond to who you want. neb does his best to make this place weird, he actively works to make this place what it is.
really ?....all it seems like to me is a bunch of middle aged losers flirting with each other. seriously, that's EXACTLY what it looks like. You've been flogging that 'tee hee let's pretend we're gay gag' for ...for as long as neb's been around infact.
Jesus man, with the extreme way Tone comes to Nebulas aid whether he actually needs it or not, I'm not convinced it's an act anymore??

@ Tone, serious, it's really looking like you actually have a school girl crush on Neb, not kidding with this. :?
Nothing I said was an attack, and your retorts were all emotional reaction, serious man. I don't see Neb getting upset, and that wasn't the intention of my post one bit. What I see is this odd situation where YOU get bent out of shape about something AGAIN, over react, and accuse people etc. of "not getting Neb". WTF mate? Neb is just some geek, no better or worse than anybody else IMO, but you blow up your friends into super forum jedi masters, and expect the rest of us to as well.
I'm neither upset or glad that Nebs around he's OK, and I enjoy his on topic posts. I'm not a fan of his humor, and guess what? not everybody will be. YOU, and others, like his humor, and that's fine, but I'm here to stay, and if he or you or anybody posts something I don't like, or posts off topic crap in threads about the actual product we have in common (uh.. that would be Live!) you'll hear about it. You would, and can do the same, but honestly, it gets a little old YOU and Neb, and a few other here, CLAIMING the forum as your own, and trying to drown out dissent with cries of people not "getting" yr friends etc.

Riddle me this, if reading is such a passive action, how come the smallest disagreement with you turns into hair splitting retorts to every sentence? If it's so passive why do you get so strung out at supposed attacks on your friends character? I don't, and will not troll block anybody, I don't need protection from my own reaction to other people. I find the concept amusing, it's an online forum version of self inflicted parental controls.

In the end of the day if you piss me off, I have to at some point look at my own self for why I react so heavily to what you say. I have to take into account my role in the situation, and acknowledge that I'm to a degree complicent in that feeling.

Whether you admit it or not, a lot of both negative and positive things have been flung around about Neb lately, fact! Neb is in part reacting to that, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. It's also no great mystery that he stirs it up himself a bit, humor, dogging on the poor treatment he received at NAMM at first etc. then getting treated well, people talking about him in opinionated ways pro/con etc. All of these things add up to his feeling that the forum is going mad.

I would recommend you lay off the gay jokes a bit, I think it's affecting your ability to act rationally about Neb. Besides it's in poor fucking taste. Maybe I'm touchy that way because I've known at least three gays that were good friends that died of AIDS, I dunno? It reeks of homophobia, but hey, you know what they say about homophobia. You're in the right city if you do end up swinging that way. And guess what? I wasn't joking about that, and it wasn't an attack. I approve of gay people, they rule IMO.


That will be $100, you can pay the secretary out front, and don't forget the take the pills I prescribed on schedule. Otherwise your behavior will only get worse Mkay?

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