Remote SL: "ableton is offline"

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StreetSoul
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Post by StreetSoul » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:46 pm

allanaceflyer:


I think that it's a bug in the new update in the hardware (remote SL) that we cant do anything about except making novation aware of the problem so they can solve it with a new fix.

cenik1
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Post by cenik1 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:18 pm

I tried to setup my REMOTE SL 61 for the first time today with Ableton Live 7 and I am, unfortunately, experiencing the exact same problem ("Ableton is offline"). I really hope that a fix is put out soon (either by Novation or Ableton). I'll keep checking this thread to see if any progress is made!

cenik1
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Post by cenik1 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:38 pm

Perhaps this bug will be fixed when Novation releases Automap Universal 2.0 (which will be available for download next month): http://www.novationmusic.com/global/new ... _new_high/

Can anybody speak to this possibility?

StreetSoul
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Post by StreetSoul » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:44 am

The novation support has still not answered my mail. That's F*cked up in my opinion!

hakey
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Post by hakey » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:33 pm

I've got the 'Ableton is offline' problem too (also getting pops and crackles when selecting encoders and encoder banks on Automap Universal with some VSTS).

It'd be great if it worked as advertised, but as it is it doesn't do anything that a standard cheap midi keyboard wouldn't do. :x

Out Of My System
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Post by Out Of My System » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:46 pm

Works as intended with Live 6, but Live 7 - nope. Trying to find out if it's Live or the SL that's broken is the problem. Sucks!

cenik1
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Post by cenik1 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:21 pm

I've been in contact with Novation support and the person with whom I spoke informed me that Novation is working with the folks at Ableton to try and resolve this problem.

Timur
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Post by Timur » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:02 pm

Wonder why both companies do not see fit to publish a corresponding note. :?:

hakey
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Post by hakey » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:41 pm

Novation claim that the problem rests within the Live 7 script, which would make sense as Live 6 seems to work OK.

I'm also getting significant latency when using the SL with Live 7. When I first run Live latency is good, but after messing with a few vsts latency will suddenly increase so much that the SL becomes useless for inputting midi (this is with 10% cpu load). At the same time though, there's no latency if I use the computer keyboard.

Also, sometimes if I scroll through the different templates the SL will stop outputting midi altogether. Only restarting Live sorts this out.

Has anyone tried the latest Live beta? Novation say that that may sort out the problems.

seansfoot
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Post by seansfoot » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:18 am

hakey wrote:Novation claim that the problem rests within the Live 7 script, which would make sense as Live 6 seems to work OK.

I'm also getting significant latency when using the SL with Live 7. When I first run Live latency is good, but after messing with a few vsts latency will suddenly increase so much that the SL becomes useless for inputting midi (this is with 10% cpu load). At the same time though, there's no latency if I use the computer keyboard.

Also, sometimes if I scroll through the different templates the SL will stop outputting midi altogether. Only restarting Live sorts this out.

Has anyone tried the latest Live beta? Novation say that that may sort out the problems.
I don't think the problem lies soley with Ableton for two reasons, (1) I'm also getting "Automap is OFFLINE" and inability for Automap to sense/detect my connected hardware, as are some other users it seems, and (2) the same problem (replace Ableton with Automap) in Cubase.

Their beta drivers (4.1.10b6) fix both the "Ableton is OFFLINE" and "Automap is OFFLINE" bug for me, but they introduce new problems with the automapping, whereby parameters are now being mapped to VSTs incorrectly! :?

If any of you would like to see if the beta drivers resolve the Ableton if OFFLINE bug for you, you can download them from http://mail.focusrite.com/beta/remote_sl/

Please report back any findings....


What OS's are you guys with problems running?

Ten Zen Bulls
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Post by Ten Zen Bulls » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:21 am

After experiencing all the issues above...

Success!!!!!!

9 hours of troubleshooting and the Remote SL works as it should...

Live Version 7.0.2 fixes this problem.

My settings are:

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Ableton Auto-Map Template also works via Ableton Live Version 6.0.2 - but I was experiencing pops/clicks/glitch when rewired with Reason and consistent sporadic Midi communication failure When playing Reason from Live 6.0.2 Midi clips.

So far so good - full functionality of the Remote SL with Live (and Reason ReWired)

Hope this alleviates some headaches!

Ten Zen Bulls
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Post by Ten Zen Bulls » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:06 am

...temporarily - until you switch between a few different automaps - then it goes back to OFFLINE and I have to restart the program...

...Keep Digging

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Post by DiGiTaLFX » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:53 am

Just rename AutomapServer.app to Automap Server.app (this is on os x i'm on about) and it won't launch on start up, and that seems to solve my problem. Dunno if that'll help.

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Post by Damian » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:55 pm

Ten Zen Bulls wrote:After experiencing all the issues above...

Success!!!!!!

9 hours of troubleshooting and the Remote SL works as it should...

Live Version 7.0.2 fixes this problem.

My settings are:

Image

Ableton Auto-Map Template also works via Ableton Live Version 6.0.2 - but I was experiencing pops/clicks/glitch when rewired with Reason and consistent sporadic Midi communication failure When playing Reason from Live 6.0.2 Midi clips.

So far so good - full functionality of the Remote SL with Live (and Reason ReWired)

Hope this alleviates some headaches!

This fixes it but it becomes unstable after a while cause sinc is off. But having sinc on causes audio dropouts & pops. I spoke to a tech at novation the other day & he knew nothing about this problem!!! He promised me he'd email me after investigation. I'm certain it's a problem with LIve cause 6.07 works perfectly.
**Cornucopia**

Timur
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Post by Timur » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:04 pm

What becomes unstable after a while with Sync off? Why would the Remote SL need Sync from Live beside the flashing Tempo LED?

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