Peter Hooks Fake DJing

roby · Post by **roby** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:18 pm

I like how on that video, from 1:45 to 1:58 he steps back from the knob, gives an intense look straight at you, then comes back to the knob with a menacing look and dance, as if he's saying "now I'm gonna do you good, watch out..!"

earthloop · Post by **earthloop** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:24 pm

RibbedSauce wrote:gotta love some of the comments to his myspace blog about this

jay sheridan wrote:having watched you mate at Dirty South in London and being a d.j myself, Ido exactly the same as editing to the beat. It was a great set when I saw you, good to see there are anal twats in every music genre tho ain't it?! All the best mate and fuck 'em

missy jem wrote:What a load of bollox! I've seen you DJ at Dirty South, NOOL day, the 2005 aftershows and at loads of other venues. There was even a thread on NOOL recently about it which sparked a bit of a row. The fact is, Hooky or not, if you were as bad as this guy is making out, we wouldn't pay good money to come and see you. Besides, if you were faking, you wouldn't have made that one mixing mistake at the Hacienda night

Bilby wrote:Yeah, I thought the whole idea of DJing was to play pre-recorded stuff. If it isn't pre-recorded then it's called "being in a band." Who gives a rat's arse how you mix it, or when it was mixed or if the beats match? Have fun, get drunk, fall over, get back up again....

and my favourite one AGAINST mr hook

DJ Funktion wrote:Peter,

It's a real shame that a good Bass player like you has to stoop to these lows for exposure. I appreciate your work with New Order, but I do NOT appreciate your "pretend" mixing. By doing that you are being disrespectful to the promoters that have paid good money for talent, and that are receiving none in return.

Most of all, you are spitting in the faces of those who have worked very hard to make a name for themselves as DJs. I have spent years working on my mixing and honing my skills to be able to play in front of 20 people, while you get to play in front of 2000 people based solely on your name. I don't have a manager or a marketing team; I have to do everything myself to get exposure. There are countless others like me that have a bad taste in their mouths because of your actions.

You know how hard it was to "get in" the industry. Us DJs have the same hardships.

It's a shame, because I'm sure you could pick up mixing very quickly if you wanted to. You have been playing for bands for over two decades, so you know most of the musical knowledge that you would ever need. You just need to learn how to work the CD players and the mixer. Heck, if you didn't know what to do and asked for help I know we would give it to you.

Mike

THEN...Peter Hook Replied

Peter Hook wrote:I think youve missed the point mate, but i do understand how rotten it is to play to no-one, i remember it well tower club oldham, joy division 1979, audience none ,we laughed !p.s. i dont have a manager or a marketing team either,have you ever thought you just might be crap?
pot calling the kettle black?

I think you still don't get it! Peter Hook is saying that too!

roby · Post by **roby** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:29 pm

i would love to get in feud with celebrity

ernene · Post by **ernene** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:55 pm

I do like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccMz5u5z ... re=related

It's awful to see a great musician faking to be a DJ spitting on them just to make some more money, but the real sad truth is that he's not guilty of anything but being the worst DJ ever, but still a great musician.

The guilties and a**holes in this story are promoters who book a DJ who doesn't even DJ, just because he's got a name and that will sell a lot of tickets!!!

But we should all be used to this kind of things, I do not understand all this horror shown by some people just 'cos someone is pretending to DJ...
The world have idiots pretending to govern countries, people on tv living from publicity just because they have a beuaty face and and empty head (and we all somehow help them to live as kings!)

There's people who even love Paris Hilton (who will leave to the world nothing but stupid emptiness -sorry Adonis

That's the world we live in...

Hook is just a clown, a clown who has made beautiful music and history.

Look Maradonna, he's another idiot, but when he used to play soccer he could make you cry of happyness, just watching him.. But do not ask anything else from him, he can just play football...
So Mr. Hook, he should just play the bass...

Sad.

Sorry for my english.

Cheers to all.

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:58 pm

Angstrom wrote:favourite Youtube comment

I actually have this mix CD he's miming to.... it's a free CD that was given away with Mixmag December 2003. It's a good CD, but that is the biggest piss-take I have every seen.

Is that the Armand Van Helden one with the yellow cover? Pretty good CD.

Would definitely like to get paid for playing it for a bunch of people...like someone said, a very Andy Kaufman move.

nuperspective · Post by **nuperspective** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:23 pm

you have to ask who is the bigger fool...

the guy getting paid to pretend or the guy paying him?

anybody who thinks for a minute peter hook [or boy george when he started, or the bird from big brother] can dj and books them is a knob.

however, if you want a load of "punters" to turn up and make money on the door all well and good. if paris hilton was to take up djing she would get booked and people would turn up.

personally - over the last five years djing has become such a joke [or parody of itself] im ashamed to admit i am one and now rarely do.

basically the whole dj thing contains no mystique for the average punter, unlike it did 15 years ago and has rapidly decended into farce.

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:31 am

Why not just make the controller/mixer completely huge. Then you can really look like it's heavy and hard to do. Cartwheel over to the 4 foot wide cut-off filter knob Make guitar hero faces and stuff, cuz it'll actually be hard. No stupid ass ridiculous posing like the hooks wanker. The floor would go nuts!

olio89 · Post by **olio89** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:38 am

how about making the decks that big too, whats that like 75 inch vinyl
super!

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:48 am

nuperspective wrote: if paris hilton was to take up djing she would get booked and people would turn up.

true dat -

check this, she won best celebrity dj @ the WMC a few years ago - and I was there...

Lindsay Lohan dj's as well

the thing that gets me (and I've said this before) people assume just because you're using a computer to get your music across to people you're somehow 'cheating'

dysanfel · Post by **dysanfel** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:18 am

Peter Hook is not a DJ, he is a bass player. Case closed.

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:07 pm

olio89 wrote:how about making the decks that big too, whats that like 75 inch vinyl
super!

Then you could press 4 hour long DJ sets on to one record. Brilliant! Peter would love it!

swett · Post by **swett** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:25 pm

Angstrom wrote:how about this one where the Mixmag jingle leaps in at 20 seconds!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecyuBs3WotI

This is so sad. And to think that i have loved New Order for sooo many years.

GOD! PLEASE, i don't want to grow old and fat.....

swett · Post by **swett** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:51 pm

djadonis206 wrote:What's the difference between what Mr. hook does and someone who "dj's" with ableton

the whole point of djing is not only making people dance (with track selection programming etc)

but also BEAT MATCHING, turntable tricks, effects etc etc in that realm

ableton you just have to sepnd an eveing warping your tracks then show up

press play and off you go - jumping around, twisting knobs and smiling A LOT!

curious

If you are very mediocre, yes...it's that easy. BUt if you are creative and layer various tracks AND your own loops, add effects, chps, etc. then no. It's not that easy.

After more than a decade being a DJ (vinyl, cd's, Ableton, whatever...) I've grown convinced that the challenge in djing is not the beatmatching, or the scratching, or the knob twitching; the ART is in understanding the crowd, knowing when a particular track is gonna empty the dancefloor or make it bounce. CHosing the order in which you play your songs and drop the gems. THis is something you CAN NOT plan at home, (even though some people attempt it) but then the vibe of their set doesn't nesesarily sync with the vibe in the club.
The other aspect of Djing that I consider an art, is what you DO do at home, and at the record store, which is being the collector, the researcher who finds the new pearls, the interesting sounds, the rare white labels.
I believe that for every quality dance track, there are a thousand mediocre ones, and another thousand crap ass titles.
So this is the real art.

BUt then again, I don't believe in putting DJ's in a huge pedestal. I Dj because I love to provide a dance party, because i am myself a dancer, and i'm never happier than when the right grooves are moving me on the dance floor. I would never accept a superstar reputation based on playing other peoples productions.
And that is why i love LIVE. Because it has allowed me to slowly incorporate my own creations when i mix.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:01 pm

I spelled spend wrong and no one called me on it

anywayz, yes I agree with you

being a dj is a lot more than just the basics - beat matching, etc

1) as a dj your name goes along way. Like Frankie Bones or DJ Dan...Frankie said it best, he could 'fart' on a record and it would still sell just cause of how he is

2) their skills - A-Trak, DJ Dan, Carl Cox and the old executioners <-- talent goes a long way

3) presence - DONALD GLAUDE...the moment he walks in the room it's on

the idea these guys can do whatever they want behind the decks and still rock it transcends the idea it's just about beat matching or pressing play

but I feel ya'

I dj and still dj so I feel ya'

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:25 pm

who gives a shit.. dj's are just playing pre made music anyways. the only thing they do live is mix the music a little different.
if i was a dj i would take a couch on stage with a lap top press play and take a nap.