can't believe - does reason really sound better than live?

[musicmachine]

looks like bounce has become a robot who is only programmed to tell people to shut up

stfu

[tjwett]

the truth is that both apps are going to color your sound in one way or another. now, it might be a bit more "transparent" in Live, or at least feel that way. i mean at least you still have waveforms and spectrum to look at. who the fuck knows what Reason is doing under the hood?! could be anything really. i have a pretty massive collection of very nice multisampled instruments that sound terrific in every sampler in the world (hard or soft) EXCEPT NN-XT. it adds a thick layer of shit and noise on top and requires gating to make it go away. how else can you explain taking 500MB worth of samples, then packing it into a ReFill and the ReFill is 250MB? major compression happening. whether that equates to bit reduction or sound loss, who the fudge knows but the Props. anyway, rambling. and done.

[RibbedSauce]

looks like bounce has become a robot who is only programmed to tell people to shut up

stfu

no it only works for bounce..you just look like a twat now

[spacebag]

[...] how else can you explain taking 500MB worth of samples, then packing it into a ReFill and the ReFill is 250MB? major compression happening. whether that equates to bit reduction or sound loss, who the fudge knows but the Props. anyway, rambling. and done.

The explanation is pretty simple. Like bitmap graphics, pcm audio contains redundant data. You can compress bitmaps to PNG without any image quality loss by removing redundant data. Likewise you can compress digital pcm audio without any quality loss (for instance FLAC, APE ... or Refill for that matter).

[evon]

No doubt - if i had bad monitors - reason would sound as bad too,
so f**k that hazzles about my monitors.

.

Sorry, it does not work like that in the science of audio and the hearing perception..I think your "reason" ing is skewed.

You might want to tell me that 10dBu + 10dBu=20dBu. Reason could very well sound good on bad monitors while Live sounds bad on the same monitors, and vice versa. It all has to do with how the Speakers are wired, ie Frequency Response, THD etc. and how compatible to each setting is the Recording Software's algorithms.

IMHO, a bad application could sound better on bad monitors than a good application on good monitors. What makes the difference is the compatibility regarding the other factors as mentioned above.

Not to take anything away from Reason. From my perspective, science apart, I have very high regards for Reason's sound.

[b0unce]

stfu

[gomi]

reasons audio sucks so bad they have to hide finishing effects at the end
of the chain to make wankers think it sounds amazing..

i can't believe people use reason to produce, it sounds like a gd tinker toy.

[RibbedSauce]

reasons audio sucks so bad they have to hide finishing effects at the end
of the chain to make wankers think it sounds amazing..

i can't believe people use reason to produce, it sounds like a gd tinker toy.

EVERYTHING NEEDS PROCESSING

TOOL

[b0unce]

stfu

[evon]

reasons audio sucks so bad they have to hide finishing effects at the end
of the chain to make wankers think it sounds amazing..

i can't believe people use reason to produce, it sounds like a gd tinker toy.

IMO it depends on the genre music being produced, and possibly also the GUI in relation to what one wants to acheive.

Like for me, I tried using Live's instruments in earlier years and was turned off. Tried it since and have seen some improvements. However, I still tend to use Reason for the bass, rythm and organ samplers and sometimes for laying drum tracks. Yet, I still have a lot of respect for Live's Instruments. I always promise myself to spend some more time to study them.

IMO I think Reason's sound and presets (for lazy sound engineers like myself who prefer to just play ready made instruments) are more suited to Hard Rock/Reggae sound.

[Nokatus]

this just illustrates again how a child
behaves when you tell him that his toy sucks.

Ultrasonyk... When using an audio software package, it's much more preferrable to have it actually sound faithfully like the stuff you put in. And believe me and the others who are responding, this has been tested many, many times: Live does give you what you put in.

If your preference, on the other hand, is overhyping the sounds (in this case drums) by default, so that they are "powerful" enough off the bat... (that is, if that's what's really happening) ...there's not much anyone can say. Anything other than, for example, I think that's frightening and perverse.

The whole idea of racks in Live is that you can easily save elaborate processing chains, complete with instruments, and then just drag them into another project when you need them. You can build a drum signal chain that suits your needs, and then just drag that in a second into a new project. But of course, in your opinion that's "using 10+ effects and not giving a powerful sound by default", eh?

Ignorance is bliss, I guess

[musicmachine]

stfu

stfu

[Tone Deft]

this just illustrates again how a child
behaves when you tell him that his toy sucks.

Ultrasonyk... When using an audio software package, it's much more preferrable to have it actually sound faithfully like the stuff you put in. And believe me and the others who are responding, this has been tested many, many times: Live does give you what you put in.

it's preferable if you have a proper way of listening to the goddamn thing in the first place.

I love how this guy (the OP) is not trying to come off like he knows what he's talking about. he won't invest in making his shit sound good over monitors but somehow he's some critic on DAWs and posters here.

hey kid, seriously, stfu. you have a LOT to learn, there are a lot of posters here that have mastered concepts you may never be exposed to.

I do take you as a nice guy, but that's not going to get you far.

unleash the badgers!!!!

[b0unce]

[hoffman2k]

unleash the badgers!!!!

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