New Ableton Live 4 book coming this fall.

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
LoopyFruit
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Post by LoopyFruit » Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:20 am

Hi

can you get this book in UK :?: any links :?:

Thanks

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Post by ryst » Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:51 pm

LoopyFruit,

The book isn't out yet. I emailed Chad and asked when we could expect it. I know it's sometime in the fall but hopefully he can give a specific month. I will try and find out.

mic-minimal,
I Can't wait for the book either. It should be a very good read.

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Post by LoopyFruit » Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:57 pm

Cheers Ryst :)

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Post by saddam whosayin? » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:11 pm

i think there needs to be some discussion of audio quality issues
where appropritate
accepting that different people are going to have different opinions of what sounds good...
rewiring, rendering. and the mixer can all affect the sound in drastic ways
beyond the basic warping issues
maybe it'll save prople who know what they want some trial and error learning

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Post by saddam whosayin? » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:14 pm

appropritate :lol:

you probabaly know i meant appropriate...

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Post by Rabid » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:57 pm

I never bought the Live 2 book because I started with Live 3 and considered the book outdated. So please, don’t just make this a book targeted to people who on the previous book.

An area I would like to see more detail on is using external controllers and how to get the most from them. Cover the benefits of the various controllers and how to best set up each type. As for types I mean keyboard controllers with a few knobs, mixing consol type controllers which seem to be great for controlling Live’s channels, and the dedicated Live controllers. Make it clear what can be controlled by switches and what can be controlled by pressing keys on a keyboard.

And maybe some tips on how to implement a lot of quick changes within a song when using only a laptop keyboard.

Robert

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a couple thoughts

Post by guvnorbeats » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:10 pm

Dave here, thanks to those of you who have purchased my book and for all the kind words and emails. It really made the whole project worthwhile and means a lot to me to know that someone out there is actually excited about the music they’re making as a result of something I might have passed on in a book or web tutorial.

As for my book, I truly gave it all I had (at the time I wrote it). Of course I have learned a good deal more since I began working for Ableton and continue to explore this deep and original program we have all come to love. Looking back I would have emphasized Live's recording more and perhaps provided even more warp marker and sound design type examples. But many have also complimented the book for including basic information concepts like looping, audio editing, song arranging, and a manual rehash of Live's effect devices. In talking with my editor, and the folks at Course, we really determined that a power user book is a book that can transform any willing reader or student of Live into a power user. That said, “Power Users” picking up my book will definitely learn a tip or two, but they likely have tips I don't know (and hopefully vice versa, ha!) or may produce music in a way I am unfamiliar with. I believe it has been said, no single key can unlock every door, and my book, and Chad's book too, are but two keys of many needed to master making music with Live (practice is another big key of course!).

In watching this thread, I think it is important to say that for 25 bucks or so, we will all get our money's worth (out of Chad's book). More importantly, this forum should always remain THE place for posting tips, inquiries, and new ideas about Live. Don't rely on a book for your next tip, discover it on your own, then share your experience here in the forum. You all have a lot to offer! I am sure because I’ve been learning in here for years! In the next months, I know that both Chad and I will be reading these forums and looking for even more tips, tricks, and information (from you the Live cognoscenti!) about how people are working with Live. That is after all the thrill of this amazing program.

Also, please keep in mind that Chad's take will be different than mine, and quite possibly different from your own great expectations. I handed this book off to Chad because I could not think of a more capable, innovative, and committed Live user on the planet. Chad has a humble, thoughtful approach and teaches me stuff all the time. His passion for both teaching AND learning about music and technology must be witnessed to be believed. I got a sneak peak of Chad’s follow actions tutorial and was totally amazed (as were other folks at Ableton)!

While it is impossible to cover everything in one book, I know Chad’s book will quickly become one of the essential tools for trying to master this unquestionably deep application. I look forward to reading it the day it comes out!

Thanks again all for the support this past year and apologies to any I let down (I owe you a pint, I guess).

All best,
Dave Hill Jr.

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ditto on the midi how to optomize midi controllers request

Post by chrysalis33rpm » Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:15 am

I also would like to see in depth information on how Live interacts with midi devices, because there is a huge range of possibilities out there and I feel like I cannot "look under the hood" to figure out how these devices and Live are talking to each other.

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