OSX "Leopard Problems" and Fixes....

machead · Post by **machead** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:36 am

My Powermac G5 was doing kernel panic ever 10 mins or so when i installed leopard couldnt use it at all, lucky i still had apple care took it to the store and they said it was my processors that where faulty yet they worked fine with tiger.

Anyway its like i have a brand new machine as it now fly's with leopard 5.2 using logic 8 and live 6

jesso · Post by **jesso** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:34 pm

No probs here. The original poster must have something wrong with his computer.
Sucks.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:51 pm

I wouldn't say Leopard sucks or compare it to microsoft based on my own experiences, but I do think that Tiger was way more stable from what I've seen. Kind of obvious given than by the time it was done, it had been for awhile too.

FWIW, I am having some issues with airport and audio production in 10.5.2, but only in higher CPU projects. Clicks and glitches, where everything was fine in 10.5.1. Few other people are seeing this too, so its not just my tunes.

xzusa8ky · Post by **xzusa8ky** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:51 pm

Dear Able Friends!

Thanks for all the nice postings

I just had to set up my old imac 400 to get on the net again.

Heres the my story:

I do normally have 3 partitions on my SATA drive in my G5 1.8 ghz machine. Partition 1 was the 10.4.11, on the 2'nd partition i got the original 10.5 install disk from apple installed, and on the last partition i did a fresh install of 10.5.

I have to say that the 10.4.11 was working without any problems at all and i did really love that last release and thought i would be save that way.

When 10.5.1 was coming out i did upgrade my Leopard partition and it was not that nice, kernel panics, mail and safari was often just quitting (Live7 did work) so i did wait for the long awaited 10.5.2 which should be a really big releases with alot of fixes (i thought) but after installing the 10.5.2 patch manually the problems was just getting worse.

After some research (MacFixIt) i read that it would be a good idea to install the combo update to assure that the disktool would work proberly so i did, and the disktool was now working without any problems, no more SUID messages anymore. Almost everything was working i thought! But the timemaschine couldn't make any backups anymore? everytime i tried to backup my 10.5.2 system the finder did quit and all my disks was gone until i did turn TM totally off.

Then suddenly i couldnt start up anymore from the 10.5.2 disk and thought that i would turn back to my partition with 10.4.11 but i couldnt! the system was corrupted and i couldn't repair it in any way.

I did try with the disktool and then Diskwarrior and Techtool but no luck! Now i can't even boot my machine from the install disk on my 2nd partition anymore? My machine is starting up and then just turns off again?

So now i will try to delete everything

and then try to start all over again with a fresh installation. Oh i could cry! So much wasted time. I will be back with a report for your guys here at my favorite board Love Ya!

Thanks for all the nice words and help........

Sorry for my poor english..

hyerstay · Post by **hyerstay** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:06 pm

Please listen to our advice! You need to test your hardware, or have an Apple-authorized service center check it out. If your Mac is under warrantee or AppleCare, this will not cost you. Please run the Apple Hardware Test disc that came with your Mac. Sometimes it is a hidden option on the install DVD.

Also, boot from your install CD, pick a language, then run Disk Utility from the Utilities menu, and run Repair Disk. Please let us know the results.

Personally, I am worried that you have a bad ram chip or a bad logic board. Our service department has seen many machines that tolerated a bad ram chip in 10.4, but Leopard exposed the bad ram thru kernal panics and such. Swapping out ram (it usually has a lifetime warrantee) most often solves the problem.

If you can't test your RAM with your Apple Hardware Test, you can try pulling half of it and seeing how it goes, then swap one half out and the other half in. Do this with a couple of different configs and you can often isolate the chip that is not working, since things will work when it is not installed.

Just be aware that an operating system that is installed while bad ram is present can be corrupted from the beginning. You may have to reinstall or archive and install after replacing bad ram.

Please let us know how things go and if there is any other way we can help.

Cheers,

jason

xzusa8ky · Post by **xzusa8ky** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:42 pm

Dear Hyerstay

Thanks for your response

I have been doing all the things that you point at and my RAM is ok!

I did test it offcource....

I will now try to re-install everything again and then hope this will help.

Will report here on the board.....

Kind regards

hyerstay · Post by **hyerstay** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:51 pm

I want your story to have a happy ending!

btw, if you reinstall, do not repair permissions until you get to 10.5.1 or 10.5.2. Otherwise it will take forever. Yes, a bug in 10.5.0.

jason

machead · Post by **machead** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:17 pm

xzusa8ky

All your problems sound like what i was going throu with leopard and mine was the processors. I would deffo take it to an apple store.

As soon as you turn Time Machine on does your whole mac lock up or when ever it trys its first back up?

xzusa8ky · Post by **xzusa8ky** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:08 pm

Hi

The problem is FIXED!

For some reason the disk permissions was changed on the Restore disk. I read that TM has a bug where it will change the disk permissions without notice, so please take a look at your disk permissions if you got the same problems!

So this was not a hardware problem.

Now i am up running again, only problem is that i can't start TM without all the disks are dissapearing?

I guess it's a bug in OSX.5.2, because my disk did work with the OSX.5.1 release and i read on the Apple Discussion forum that a lot of people are having problems with TM so now it will be turned of until the next update!

Thank for the support! It was HELL.....

Kind Regards

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:44 pm

i have had absolutely no problems and i updated like a week after it was released. sounds like a problem with the user, not the os

xzusa8ky · Post by **xzusa8ky** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:54 pm

i have had absolutely no problems and i updated like a week after it was released. sounds like a problem with the user, not the os

Mr Clever! You just sound like you are an big Jerk!

Ps: maybe you should update your info? OSX.4.10?

buy a Mac · Post by **buy a Mac** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:04 pm

User error.

condra · Post by **condra** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:24 pm

Tiger>Leopard

MidiMonk · Post by **MidiMonk** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:47 am

Apple has drank too much of their own kool-aid, my MBP has the "ELP" issues with the first key not registering and my wireless drops out bigtime.They release a fix for the keyboard today and its 10.5 only, WTF? ----Vista may suck, BUT 10.5 is the Win98 ME of today.

I have been a loyal Apple supporter since the IIe ,which still works BTW!!!.After today, thats over and I am heading back to XP for production and will keep 10.4.11 for Logic 7.2.3 and web surfing.I sent their feedback a cordial letter this evening to show my dismay and hope that maybe they will listen.10.5 is a sad OS and 300 feature is not a compelling reason to upgrade, I favor stability.User error is not to blame in all cases and is used too often as an excuse to keep Apple in a favorable light.My systems are lean and only updated when necessary.

Yhtomit · Post by **Yhtomit** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:09 am

I recently told you I didnt have problems after 10.5.2 combo update. this was not true
I do have problems but I have sorted them out last night

For beachball problems, long loading - and saving times, read the following:
(last two steps are the most important)

1/ clear your PRAM:
--> turn off your apple, unplug it (remove battery) and press and hold the power button for 7 seconds. then trun it on while holding down P + R + OPTION + CMD until the second chime

2/ startup in safe mode:
--> turn on your apple while holding down the SHIFT key until you see the login with safe mode written in red. Login. Reboot

3/ repair disk permission:
--> go to First Aid and do a repair disk. if okay, do a repair disk premission. reboot

4/ Login to Leopard. Make an empty folder on your desktop and move all the user fonts into this folder (located at: Macintosh HD\Users\YOURNAME\Library\Fonts)
--> this is something I found out myself after hours of headaches and although this seems like a nice solution, I have no idea what to do with the fonts after you moved them.... Ill get back on this. My guess is that OSX 10.5.2 combo installs incompatible fonts or something....... Either way, it has something to do with 10.5.2 and the user fonts

Now your performance should be good to go......... I was having problems especially with Logic, Garaband, Firefox. These happen to be Cocoa apps.... whcih have these annoying yellow tooltips.... tooltips - fonts - cocoa - 10.5.2 .....??

Oh and the final Leopard tweak would be adjusting your mouse double click speed. Make it faster so Finder updates the folders more quickly.

Let us know if this helped you or not.