Live Crashes when Rendering or When Putting Track in Record

[Thinktanx]

Hello, we are running Live on a Macbook Intel Core 2 Duo with OS X 10.4.11. We are having this problem in BOTH Live 7.0.1 and 7.0.2. {Update: just tried Live 6... same issue.}

It started when we tried to render a track today. After we set it up and clicked OK, Live immediately crashed. No note came up saying "Live Unexpectedly Quit", no beachballs, nothing. It just vanishes immediately.

We tried about every combination of render settings (dither on and off, normalize on and off, analysis on and off, etc., etc.), nothing made any difference.

After that, I tried to put an audio track in record and as soon as I clicked the record button, the same crash happens. MIDI tracks go into record fine, but audio tracks automatically crash Live.

Anybody have a clue??? I've tried about every way of troubleshooting it that I know.

Seems like a CPU issue to me (especially since it happened in both versions of Live 7)? What do you guys think?

Thanks a lot.

[theguru_]

same thing here. Just change live.

[Thinktanx]

Sorted it. It was a problem with his Digi CoreAudio Manager. Fukin Digidesign!!

[calx]

I'm having the same problem. I was just recording something and it crashed. Then after that it crashes every time I hit record button on audio track but you can still recrod midi tracks.

Using OSX 10.5.2 and Edirol UA-25 interface. I have reinstalled live and edirol drivers but it didn't help.

[Thinktanx]

Well, his drivers actually just totally corrupted his audio playback so that even if we unplugged the Digi and just used the Built-In Audio, the problems still happened.

Had to do a totally clean install of the OS and then re-install all his audio apps. Bummer, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Everything is cool with his ish now. Working better than ever, of course!

[calx]

Well I really hope there is other way to fix this cause I don't want to buy external harddrive and reinstall everything.

[calx]

I really can't believe this. Is there any other way to fix the problem than reinstalling OS X?

I will try to find the bug report and post it here later.

[calx]

and here is the error report:

Process: Live [384]
Path: /Applications/Live 7.0.2 OS X/Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Live
Identifier: com.ableton.live
Version: 7.0.2 (7.0.2)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [109]

Date/Time: 2008-02-25 17:22:35.861 +0200
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cf40ea __kill + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92d6b3f2 raise + 26
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92d7a9af abort + 73
3 com.ableton.live 0x01269a54 0x1000 + 19302996
4 com.ableton.live 0x01422827 0x1000 + 21108775
5 com.ableton.live 0x01422cbb 0x1000 + 21109947
6 com.ableton.live 0x0141aefc 0x1000 + 21077756
7 com.ableton.live 0x013ba8ee 0x1000 + 20682990
8 com.ableton.live 0x012b8773 0x1000 + 19625843
9 com.ableton.live 0x00e46ce1 0x1000 + 14965985
10 com.ableton.live 0x00e48c30 0x1000 + 14974000
11 com.ableton.live 0x00e424c2 0x1000 + 14947522
12 com.ableton.live 0x001a40b0 0x1000 + 1716400
13 com.ableton.live 0x001a4302 0x1000 + 1716994
14 com.ableton.live 0x005fbdf8 0x1000 + 6270456
15 com.ableton.live 0x005fc23f 0x1000 + 6271551
16 com.ableton.live 0x00560abb 0x1000 + 5634747
17 com.ableton.live 0x0055f6b0 0x1000 + 5629616
18 com.ableton.live 0x004b5e26 0x1000 + 4935206
19 com.ableton.live 0x004b5ed2 0x1000 + 4935378
20 com.ableton.live 0x000ef517 0x1000 + 976151
21 com.ableton.live 0x00550809 0x1000 + 5568521
22 com.ableton.live 0x0017634c 0x1000 + 1528652
23 com.ableton.live 0x00176314 0x1000 + 1528596
24 com.ableton.live 0x015b1416 AAbstractFileDevice::AAbstractFileDevice() + 14034
25 com.ableton.live 0x004b4871 0x1000 + 4929649
26 com.ableton.live 0x00176314 0x1000 + 1528596
27 com.ableton.live 0x002aa6ba 0x1000 + 2791098
28 com.ableton.live 0x002ab3ee 0x1000 + 2794478
29 com.ableton.live 0x002ab47c 0x1000 + 2794620
30 com.ableton.live 0x002c815d 0x1000 + 2912605
31 com.ableton.live 0x002cd103 0x1000 + 2932995
32 com.ableton.live 0x000aa1fc 0x1000 + 692732
33 com.ableton.live 0x002c664e 0x1000 + 2905678
34 com.ableton.live 0x003eb508 0x1000 + 4105480
35 com.ableton.live 0x000a19d5 0x1000 + 657877
36 com.ableton.live 0x003e66e1 0x1000 + 4085473
37 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b03fc3 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1181
38 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b033fd SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 405
39 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b1fe0e SendEventToEventTarget + 52
40 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b32874 ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 1208
41 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b0437c DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2134
42 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b033fd SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 405
43 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b1fe0e SendEventToEventTarget + 52
44 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b8d110 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 86
45 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90b8996a RunApplicationEventLoop + 222
46 com.ableton.live 0x000a2720 0x1000 + 661280
47 com.ableton.live 0x00002b26 0x1000 + 6950
48 com.ableton.live 0x00002a4d 0x1000 + 6733

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c859e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c8d1dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x02634f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x02627477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0262b07d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x026359ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6c55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6b12 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c85a22 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x00ebcaf5 0x1000 + 15448821
2 com.ableton.live 0x0066d318 0x1000 + 6734616
3 com.ableton.live 0x00c963f4 0x1000 + 13194228
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6c55 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6b12 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c85a22 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x00ebcaf5 0x1000 + 15448821
2 com.ableton.live 0x011968fe 0x1000 + 18438398
3 com.ableton.live 0x00c963f4 0x1000 + 13194228
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6c55 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6b12 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c859e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c8d1dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94aed0de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94aedd18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9141e464 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9141e300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6c55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6b12 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c85b06 mach_wait_until + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x911873eb MPDelayUntil + 39
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9118727f Delay + 104
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1b3237e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1b33ea5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6c55 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6b12 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92c85a46 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb7daf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb9633 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9142da47 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9142f602 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9142dda7 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9142daab HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9141e300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6c55 _pthread_start + 321
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92cb6b12 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x92d7a96f ecx: 0xbfffe25c edx: 0x92cf40ea
edi: 0x0000004d esi: 0x1f0d4430 ebp: 0xbfffe278 esp: 0xbfffe25c
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000286 eip: 0x92cf40ea cs: 0x00000007
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x0044a000

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[Thinktanx]

Did you email this [email protected]??

They should be able to resolve it within a day. Just send them the crash log and all the info in regards to what kind of system you are running (including your soundcard/interface).