Drum programming

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malebrok
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Drum programming

Post by malebrok » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:27 pm

Hi

I find it very easy to make those traditional ~hip-hop beats that just loops. But i could use some help when i want to make more advanced drum programming. I wonder how it is possible to make beats like the ones aphex twin and squarepusher makes. Everchanging and fast.

How do you do drum programming like that?

Cloak and Dagger
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Post by Cloak and Dagger » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:08 pm

1. Look into automating the clip offset. also beat repeat and supa trigga(a free vst)
2. Download the glitch drum racks in the tips and tricks Racks sticky.( Live 6 or 7)
then learn how it works and you can make your own.
3. Look at Lives follow commands and clip launch modes
4. Look into Reaktor or max msp
5. on windows there is a plugin call dblue glitch
i believe its free. check it out.


there are probably more ways but these are a few.

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Re: Drum programming

Post by mdk » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:02 am

malebrok wrote:How do you do drum programming like that?
ideas, patience, practice, technique.

oh, and do it all at half speed then turn the tempo up.
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Post by kraze » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:56 pm

Get an Amen break and a few gabba kicks.
In Arrangement View, zoom in a full bar, right click and choose "narrowest".

Make two channels, drag the amen break onto one and the gabber kicks to the other. Add tube distortion (lives own is ok but get Camel Phat Free Crusher, it's great) to the amen track and a deep flanger to the gabber track. Activate looping for the bar, maximize the two channels and wrap the amen break (in clip view, right click 1 and choose "wrap from here"). BPM doesnt really matter, it's all about how "busy"you're programming it.

Use your mouse and split up the amen break by in arrangement view, click and drag over the wave form to select individual slices. Press Alt/Control E to split. Do a bunch of splits and then delete everything you didn't split.

This is where the fun starts, place out the hits and just go nuts. Select parts and try Alt/Ctrl+D to duplicate, these individual duplicates can then easily be pitched, reversed, start point changed or amplified by clicking its bar and doing it individually per hit in the Clip View. This is saved for that special clip so if you duplicate it, you're duplicating it with those non-destructive changes.

When you got a kicking bar, keep making them, do 4 or 8 (shit, this is breakcore, do 7.1 if you want to!)

Download a plugin like SupaTrigga, dBlue Glitch, Buffer Override or LiveCut. They're all free and every single one of them except dBlue Glitch also comes in intel ub format. Put a region over the whole thing and just go a bit nuts with one of those mashing plugs. Render this to disk 2-3 times, then change the settings on the mash plug and repeat a few times as well as also saving a clean version.

Now start a new project and use another break as well as some other gabber kicks. Now start messing around like before with the new samples as well as chopping and screwing with the loops you've made. Do not use the loops as they were automatically mashed, pick out the good parts and make it really frantic and varied. My main tip in programming the final beats is to listen at a high volume and really get yourself into it, that way you don't care about 4/4 any more and just make what makes your eyes pop.

This is a very fun way to make breakcore styled stuff. A lot of people use trackers for this genre, me included, but Live is actually very fun and creative for doing this shit.

malebrok
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Post by malebrok » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:05 am

Thanks for the tips! Beat repeat is great and krazes technique is very good.

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Post by Grappadura » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:30 am

Yesterday I used an arpeggiator and a random and a velocity device on a drum rack. It was cool! Constantly changing loops. [/quote]

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Post by killingtime » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:57 pm

Yesterday all my beats seemed so far away,
Now it looks like there here to stay,
Oh, I believe in yesterday :lol:

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