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hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:59 pm

Another deskilling tool to flood the world with even more useless remix/rehash/regurgitated drivel...

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:00 pm

My techie mate said something about 'resynthesis'. I'm not sure what he means.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:02 pm

hambone1 wrote:Another deskilling tool to flood the world with even more useless remix/rehash/regurgitated drivel...

Well, I can't believe you let unskilled AMATEUR dancers trigger MIDI at your shows!

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:04 pm

hambone1 wrote:Another deskilling tool to flood the world with even more useless remix/rehash/regurgitated drivel...

Bollocks.

That's an utterly, utterly stupid thing to say. I'm not going to play the age card here, but mate, look at the possibilities instead of the problems. Drivel will be drivel, but someone's going to come along and play this like Squarepusher played his DR660.

You might not like the resulting sounds because taste is taste, but seriously, I can't wait.

Atomikat · Post by **Atomikat** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:28 pm

We can make a very good job with Melodyne here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95dJonNL ... re=related

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:34 pm

noisetonepause wrote:I'm not going to play the age card here...

Good, because personal taste and opinion are not bound by age... in my opinion...

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:37 pm

hambone1 wrote:Another deskilling tool to flood the world with even more useless remix/rehash/regurgitated drivel...

i can't believe u just said this K

a remix is almost like the equivelant of you using Live in a new way that it was not anticipated for..

nobody says 'oh great another dickhead who uses software for its unintended purpose, more of this bloody useless lighting and video drivel'

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:42 pm

I'm a big fan of originality. IMO, that's diametrically opposite to the remix/rehash/regurgitation philosophy.

That's just me, though. My opinion.

I LOVE to see those creative enough to use tools for something other than their intended purposes, to carve their own path. Lemmings do nothing for me.

I still contend that the best thing that could happen to music would be the elimination of electricity!

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:03 am

if the sound quality is like the other versions of melodyne i wont use it.
maybe i suck at using it, but when i demo'd melodyne i could clearly hear the difference between the original sample and an altered one.
it has almost the same cher effect that auto tune gives.
also it is only showing one single instrument being altered at a time not a whole mix of instruments and vocals. so i doubt anyone will be lifting whole hendrix and mj songs then reclaiming them as there own.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:04 am

hambone1 wrote:I still contend that the best thing that could happen to music would be the elimination of electricity!

I fucking love the video, and I could see SOOO many *creative* uses for this, it's not even funny!

rehashing?!? Are you kidding me?? If anything then changing the internal harmonic structure of anything is the most innovative sound treatment we've seen in a long while - probably since convolution?

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:06 am

Why not just play the desired 'internal harmonic structure' to start with?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:08 am

yeah, slow down, hamcakes. You forget that some of us never, ever use anybody else's music but our own? I can't wait to take some acoustic guitar chordage of mine and start pulling it into something it isn't. I'm not gonna touch anybody else's shit with this. I'm one person who will only use it on original material for creating something else original.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:10 am

sparklepuff wrote:yeah, slow down, hamcakes. You forget that some of us never, ever use anybody else's music but our own? I can't wait to take some acoustic guitar chordage of mine and start pulling it into something it isn't. I'm not gonna touch anybody else's shit with this. I'm one person who will only use it on original material for creating something else original.

Good point! As a songwriting/sketchpad tool for original material, I can see it being really useful.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:16 am

Well with this, you can change the notes, you can change the rhythm, you can turn a bit into MIDI and trigger a synth with it... at what point does it stop being someone else's?

Yhtomit · Post by **Yhtomit** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:31 am

Angstrom wrote:I am assuming this technology will now take over the world and be licensed just about freaking everywhere .. skip ahead a few years and ... sample clearance?

how the hell would you begin to police that? It's Herbie Hancock's funky clavinet, but the chords are different and the notes are phrased differently. Is it Herbie Hancocks clavinet anymore?
It's going to get interesting. I can't wait to get my hands on this.