Everything else sounds like crap after this....

freshdrumma · Post by **freshdrumma** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:08 pm

don't know, as soon as a beat start it's cutted, glithched, stopped, reversed...
how come that people dance to that?
i'm more or less in the same scene, but i start to miss some house!

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:00 pm

DjViral wrote:i mean where does someone even start, if wanting to get a sound like this.

Play with gates a lot. That's how you can get the hard cutting happening. Play with Beat Repeat, and get SupaTrigga (it's a free download - easy to find). Both of those effects are random, so you can play with them and record the output and only keep the random instances that sound cool. Then take those samples and lay them into an arrangement or play them back through a sampler.

Eventually yes - your composition should end up in the Arranger where you can fine tune it and really shape it into what you want.

And screw all these old goats with sensitive ears - compress to your hearts desire! I mean, it tires my ears out pretty quickly too, but sometimes a few minutes of squashed electro gets my day going.

astromass · Post by **astromass** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:33 pm

hated it

DjViral · Post by **DjViral** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:11 am

Well thanks for the mixed replies.
I do owe some of you an apology as this doesn't really make everything sound like shit. I must admit when i do make this kind of music it hurts after a while. my ear drums crawl back into my head. but i just like it alot and the topic sure got ppl talking lol. I should reiterate that this is ripped from a SebastiAn set for PIG Mag party Milano (track isn't released yet). The quality is bad, and if you've heard the whole set it sounds like it was recorded badly because it distorts constantly ( and i mean like speakers can't take it distortion) someone probably got too happy with the gain.

There are a lot of other fully released tracks from SebastiAn that show dynamics.

SebastiAn - Killing in the name of SebastiAn
Uffie - Pop The Glock (SebastiAn remix)
SebastiAn - Ross Ross Ross

thanks again for the help, hope to hear alot more techniques n production methods discussed.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:20 am

popslut wrote:Christ.

I think one of my migraines is coming on.

The best bit about being old is not having to go to clubs and pretend to like shit like that.

*Sits back in rocking chair with "Slint-Spiderland" on the hi-fi*

oh fucking snap

*sifting through collection in search of tweez*

rmc22 · Post by **rmc22** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:27 am

If you really want to know how it's done...

I've got a secret, shh, don't tell.

SebastiAn's technique came from Oizo...

Basically, it's simply an old school production trick: he is consistantly resampling and bouncing down to fewer tracks; as if working on a 4 track. That's how everything stays so nice and tight, not all this talk about Ableton plug in BS and black magic. Try running something like that and you're going to end up with a mess.

This track sounds retardedly simple:
track 1: ufo sample throughout the song
track 2: bass and drums (notice how these "chop" together?)
track 3: any other elements

Straight from the horse's mouth, too.

Cheers.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:35 am

b0unce wrote: *sifting through collection in search of tweez*

fail.

this will have to do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDL2tzpaUqI

Sibanger · Post by **Sibanger** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:26 am

sweetjesus wrote:
popslut wrote:Christ.

I think one of my migraines is coming on.

The best bit about being old is not having to go to clubs and pretend to like shit like that.
u should see the sexy skanks who go to those nights

It's OK for you sj.
Your're still young enough to slay those sexy skanks. Hell, if I was young and
single, I'd listen to anything that the skanks were into.

I might go play with the kids now.

makeup and self tanning agents + anorexia and a very limited amount of clothes? And coloured hair.

But the dark light makes it all blend together

And the cocaine and E and LSD.......................

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:40 am

yeah it all helps

peeddrroo · Post by **peeddrroo** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:34 am

rmc22 wrote:If you really want to know how it's done...

I've got a secret, shh, don't tell.

SebastiAn's technique came from Oizo...

Basically, it's simply an old school production trick: he is consistantly resampling and bouncing down to fewer tracks; as if working on a 4 track. That's how everything stays so nice and tight, not all this talk about Ableton plug in BS and black magic. Try running something like that and you're going to end up with a mess.

This track sounds retardedly simple:
track 1: ufo sample throughout the song
track 2: bass and drums (notice how these "chop" together?)
track 3: any other elements

Straight from the horse's mouth, too.

Cheers.

sebastian was doing his stuff before meeting oizo though.

clayne · Post by **clayne** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:45 am

This is compressed beyond belief and on top of that, EQ'd to play into the ear's response to mids. There's no sense of percussive life to it, very little real bass, and it's just ridiculously loud no matter what actual level you listen to it.

Even straight up compressed minimal techno has more dynamics than this.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:49 am

WE DON'T NEED NO HIHATS!
just bass

and dynamics make me sick, i want flat spectrum readings

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:58 am

It don't matter.... club PAs... are mostly already pre compressed...

buckman · Post by **buckman** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:09 am

So is he using Ableton do all his stuff like this then??

Cutting in the arrange page? or SAMPLER in Ableton?

I wonder if thats a hardware compressor on the output or whether this has "stayed in the box"?

I love his stuff, as its so different, and agree his toolkit for a remix is prob the kicks/snares etc of the track itself as he cuts drums with other sounds on them!

popslut · Post by **popslut** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:28 pm

3dot... wrote:It don't matter.... club PAs... are mostly already pre compressed...

No shit?

You mean they're compressed at the factory? I bet that saves a lot of setup time.

Everything else sounds like crap after this....

Re: Everything else sounds like crap after this....

ridiculous compression