Pictures from 2 day, 4 way 'Live 4' Jam Festival

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:31 am

ekko wrote:Looks like a buncha guys checking email.

Yeah..... but it's how you do it........

globalgoon · Post by **globalgoon** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:37 am

I like how people are able to extrapolate 15 hours from 1/125th of a second

ekko · Post by **ekko** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:20 pm

Hey man, it's the internet. Brazen assumptions, unjustifiable opinions, and downright crass classlessness is what it's all about.

Seriously, I have a hard time finding 3 other like-minded chaps here in my area to do stage such an event with. I envy your gig. I'm forced to check my email on stage with regular pop bands.

I'd love to do a gig like you did. Seriously.

And if I ever do, I promise to post to this forum right smack dab in the middle of it.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:34 pm

*smells whiff of humor going awry*

Damn, I was taking the piss out of the other guy....!!! I fully respect you guys. I've only MIDI'd up to ONE human being in my life

A little lattitude, your honour....its friday night

what news from the human reactive front??

mosca · Post by **mosca** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:48 pm

goon,

looked great - when's the new material

mosca
watmm

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:30 pm

jedsounds wrote:Nothing, I repeat, nothing in this world is worse then a guy on stage twisting a midi knob with a look of ecstatic transcendence borrowed from Jimi Hendrix plastered across his face.

Well, very, very little.

I would have to diasagree. Many many things are far worse than that.

For example, having a brick dropped on your face, being run over by a truck, having a spike drove into your head, drowning in quicksand, and being eaten alive by a shark are all things far worse.

There are many more.

Other than that I totally agree with you.

Great post.

JAMM · Post by **JAMM** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:41 pm

Some people don,t need a stupid stage act
to spice up the music there making.

globalgoon · Post by **globalgoon** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:06 pm

--------> i know!

-mosca --> nearly finished my new EP - can't wait to get it out of the way so I can concentrate on new stuff

sebastian_renix · Post by **sebastian_renix** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:38 pm

Goon, great idea to have a 4 Ableton sync'd laptop jam. I've been doing it lately but just with 2. There should be an Ableton band, no?

The topic of live electronic music performance is a big issue with me. I remember going to my first concert of an electronic musician, u-ziq. I loved his records so much and I was so psyched to hear him live. And he was AWFUL. He just played out of his MPC twiddling a few knobs here and there. He didn't even say "Hi" to the audience once--no acknowledgement. I wanted to cry. Then you compare that kind of performance with that of a great rock band and there's no comparison. The rock band gives a much better show.

So I set out to make an electronic music performance group that MOVED people in some way. But how to do this? Live video? Costumes? Choreography? Live animals onstage? The conclusion I came to after a few gigs is that attempting to make a performance of electronic music like rock music is not going to work--the performance of music in the two genres are apples and oranges. The methodology of creating the music is so radically different. How can you possibly perform in the same way?

The trick is to give people a sonic experience that moves them as much as the lead singer in a rock band doing a guitar solo with his axe thrusting out of his crotch. Electronic music allows for sound shaping and sculpting that you can't do in any other form of music with as much control and as many options. There is so much regurgitation of 20 year old rhythms and song ideas in electronic music--of course it's going to bore people. House, dnb, techno, trip-hop, and all the other genres have been DONE and they were done far better by the people who "invented" the genres than they are today with people using Ableton instead of an MPC but not doing much differently. It is our honus to use these very powerful tools we've been given to forge new ground in music. It's an opportunity that I feel is unique to this period in history--we can make almost any sound we want!

So let's make some new shit and let audiences hear/feel it and they won't care what the performer is wearing or what tripped out video sequence is projecting onscreen. Lets get some exciting experimentation going on. I wanna see people unafraid to be themselves and executing some "stupid" or "crazy" ideas. I want you to make music that will explode my heart into a million pieces of joy.

'naw mean?
-Dave

ekko · Post by **ekko** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:59 pm

sebastian_renix wrote: The topic of live electronic music performance is a big issue with me. I remember going to my first concert of an electronic musician, u-ziq. I loved his records so much and I was so psyched to hear him live. And he was AWFUL. He just played out of his MPC twiddling a few knobs here and there. He didn't even say "Hi" to the audience once--no acknowledgement. I wanted to cry. Then you compare that kind of performance with that of a great rock band and there's no comparison. The rock band gives a much better show.-Dave

Had EXACTLY the same experience when I went to see Plaid a few years ago. Bor-ring. I didn't even stay for the whole show. I figured "this sounds JUST like their albums, and I could listen to those at home, sitting down." People weren't moving, people were just standing there, or laying down on the floor. I swear a few were asleep.

Nothing against Plaid, because I love those guys, but they're live show was a truly trying experience.

It probably didn't help that just a few days prior in the same venue, I watched John Scofield tear up the place with his 4 piece band.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:27 pm

smutek wrote:
jedsounds wrote:Nothing, I repeat, nothing in this world is worse then a guy on stage twisting a midi knob with a look of ecstatic transcendence borrowed from Jimi Hendrix plastered across his face.

Well, very, very little.

I would have to diasagree. Many many things are far worse than that.

For example, having a brick dropped on your face, being run over by a truck, having a spike drove into your head, drowning in quicksand, and being eaten alive by a shark are all things far worse.

There are many more.

Other than that I totally agree with you.

Great post.

You forgot the whole getting mistook for being dead, then being put in the morgue in a freezer. You wake up to find yourself in a small hole in the wall with no light. You beat against the door, but its in vain - everyone has left.

You die 10 hours later. Broken bones and no fingernails.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:37 pm

its all very kraftwerk i think.

hrdvsion · Post by **hrdvsion** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:07 am

is that a seanix?
that is the computer i have....and i am having some issues with version 4...is yours fine?

hrdvsion

Alexander · Post by **Alexander** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:07 pm

congratulations

It sounds and looks interesting.
can you give us some more hints how you did it ?

i like the idea of some kind of jam in public, but i´m not sure if i could do it. i do play regular jam sessions at home with a friend who plays guitar, but one rule is :
no computer

i own live only a few monts now and I´m now tempted to use a computer

one thing about the "playing electronic music live" discussion:
is anyone interested in moving this discussion to a seperate thread ?
honestly i doubt, that i´ll ever play live, but i think the discussion is very interesting, but a bit offtopic here

Pictures from 2 day, 4 way 'Live 4' Jam Festival

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