Live 3.0.4 Mac Crash after 2 GB recording- limit or bug?

milka · Post by **milka** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:14 am

Has anyone experienced this crash:
after recording continuous stereo track for more than 2 GB Live 3.0.4 crashes and the AIFF file cannot be opened by any app?
Is there a way to recover that recorded file ...it doen't open by Peak nor bt Quick Time..... but it has a QuickTime icon.
thanks in advance for any ideas.
peace - Milka

pe · Post by pe » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:01 pm

try soundhack

pe

milka · Post by **milka** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:58 am

thanks for the tip - will try that programm after next crash...as i deleted the crashed aiff files now and have nothing to test it on :(
Still wonder why Live 3.0.4 crashes after the 2 GB file recording... am i the only one?
milka

milka · Post by **milka** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:44 pm

anyone ever had a similar recording crash?
is there a 2GB stereo track recording limit or BUG under OSX?
thanks in advance

wmf · Post by **wmf** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:25 am

milka,

this has happened to me more times than i wish to discuss. even on a g5 it will happen. we have found that if the drive is external dont use it, use the internal drive on your machine. also, dont let your drive become too full...always keep 5gigs free min. the sad thing is is that the file is there it just needs to be closed the right way. I have sent many messages to ableton but they do not know why. stll looking for answers myself. arrgghhhhhhhh!!

milka · Post by **milka** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:47 pm

hmm, this is definitely a BUG but is it a bug in OSX or in Live 3.0.4 ...does still happen in Live 4.0.1 anyone tryed to record more than a 2GB stereo file yet?
peace-milka

wmf · Post by **wmf** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:33 pm

I was experiencing the same problem using Classic. Seems to me its not the operating software. I have also had this problem occur while looping a section of 8 bars over and over for lenghty perod of time.

Implexicon · Post by **Implexicon** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:54 pm

I think it's a general limit of saving files. I have also the same problem on a g5 at work. I can't save photoshop files larger than 2gig...

jedsounds · Post by **jedsounds** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:53 pm

The appletalk protocol has a built in limit of 2 gigs, nothing over two gigs can be transferred over an apletalk network, nor can you save data to be incrementally added (a la Retrospect) to a destination file on a remote drive that has grown larger than 2 gigs. I wonder if this has anything to do with it? If you're saving to remote firewire, could something in the OSX architecture be applying the 2 gig appletalk limitation?

Note that this 2 gig limit is not hardware based, as iSCSI is now operating where you've got central servers online via ethernet port with no limit on data transfer.

milka · Post by **milka** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:05 pm

Just to clarify something here:
I am weekly recording a live concert (band) or just a stereo track of my weekly DJ live night ...on internal HD of IBook G4 12' and everytime if the recording stereo file reaches 2GB Live 3.0.4 crashes ...resolted file cannot be read. Is this Live 3.0.4 or OSX 10.3.5 ?
This is not hapenning with Logic Audio on the same mashine.
peace- milka

Andreas Zapf · Post by **Andreas Zapf** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:20 pm

Hi milka, hi everybody,

sorry for the late response. I needed to do some tests, and doing a series of 2 GB recordings takes some time...

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All Live versions (tested from 3.0 to 4.0.1) crash when a file recording reaches the 2 GB boundary. The recorded audio file's header is corrupt so that many applications cannot open it.

This is due to both a limit and a bug in Live. Live currently supports only audio files limited to 2 GB size (instead of 4 GB max. size for AIFF files). In addition there is a bug causing Live to crash when the file size limit is reached.

We have fixed the crash bug in the upcoming free Live4 update (Version 4.0.2). When the file size limit is reached in a recording track, that track's recording will be automatically stopped by disarming the track. So you'll be sure that the recorded file is a valid audio file.

When you use older versions of Live, and get the crash, the recorded audio is not lost. You can recover it by fixing the corrupt file header with a sound file editor (like soundhack mentioned by pe).

Regards

milka · Post by **milka** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:50 pm

Andreas, thank You for your clear and honest reply - hope Live will support 2+ GB continuos recording length in future updates.
milka