What feature will most likely be in Live 8...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:45 am

So basically all you need is remote access to a feature thats already there in arrangement view, but in session view. The "Set clip as master" function.

There may be a few experiments worth trying out.

The first one would be to see if you can trigger tempo changes in the arrangement with the locators, without affecting your current sound.
Which means that instead of a simple tempo jump, you could trigger an automated tempo fade.

The second idea I had is to embed tempo information in a clip as a CC.
You're already familiar with Dummy Clips, so you know that instead of triggering scenes with tempo information - you could trigger clips with tempo information.

None of these methods takes the fluctuations of the song in account. But in the first method, there may be room to set up a locator to correspond to a song tempo if it is a master clip.

Anyway. Just throwing some ideas out there. I haven't tested these things myself because I've had no need for it so far. So they're theoretical solutions with all the unthought off bugs that come with it.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:49 am

I've tried most of those workarounds, but they're awkward.

Triggering tempo changes with dummy clips is one I haven't tried.

BigBuddha · Post by **BigBuddha** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:49 am

I can't see "add groove" in your poll?

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:12 am

BigBuddha wrote:I can't see "add groove" in your poll?

Yeah, Im late on this one too, but per track assignable groove would be great. Maybe Invert current scene clip colors...So we can see what scene is selected.

Im guessing there gonna partner up with arturia and add a Horn Modeler to the suite.

synnack · Post by **synnack** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:50 pm

hoffman2k wrote: Live 8 will have a .bundle loader and .bundle files can be created with pluggo 4 in Max 5.
Tension, Analog and Electric are .bundle files. Or teasers as I like to call them

really? Is that confirmed? or just speculation? That would be pretty cool.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:26 pm

tempus3r wrote:
hoffman2k wrote: Live 8 will have a .bundle loader and .bundle files can be created with pluggo 4 in Max 5.
Tension, Analog and Electric are .bundle files. Or teasers as I like to call them
really? Is that confirmed? or just speculation? That would be pretty cool.

Pure speculation. Though the AAS instruments are .bundle files. Which sets them apart from any other plugin in Live. My theory is that AAS can make these bundle files in Max or whatever the hell Ableton + Cycling are working on. So that AAS can fix bugs in their plugin and just provide Ableton with a new bundle.
Its a wild guess, but one that makes sense to little old me.

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:29 pm

wtf there are 500 free vocoders out there + robert henke said it won't happen.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:35 pm

Daim wrote:wtf there are 500 free vocoders out there + robert henke said it won't happen.

Getting unofficial news from Ableton is like watching CNN. It has no content, it has no meaning and its probably made up...

buckman · Post by **buckman** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:26 pm

EDITOR
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And Crossfaades...

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:27 pm

Daim wrote:wtf there are 500 free vocoders out there + robert henke said it won't happen.

there's a subtle clue in this official Ableton edit of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOTZk0fD6Qs

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:32 pm

Yhtomit · Post by **Yhtomit** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:54 pm

TRACK FOLDERS!!
Grouping tracks
lower price

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:22 pm

Angstrom wrote:
Daim wrote:wtf there are 500 free vocoders out there + robert henke said it won't happen.
there's a subtle clue in this official Ableton edit of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOTZk0fD6Qs

hahaha

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:28 pm

hambone1 wrote:I've tried most of those workarounds, but they're awkward.

Triggering tempo changes with dummy clips is one I haven't tried.

another way to trigger tempo changes is to have blank scenes way down at the bottom of your set with the stop buttons removed.

firing these scenes will change the tempo without disrupting what is currently playing

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:29 pm

forge wrote: I just wanted everyone to be forming picket lines around Ableton HQ shouting slogans and waving banners with caricatures depicting Gerhard and Robert with devil horns above captions like "Make Session automation, not bassons" on them

100 points to anyone who actually saw that there were words above that picture

this is the exact context I am seeing this survey in!!

take the survey and vote for automation in session!!

what pic?

What feature will most likely be in Live 8...

What feature will most likely be in Live 8 among the most requested (and not)?