Novation Nocturn?

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:38 am

Any one use this controler?

circuitslave · Post by **circuitslave** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:43 am

DJ VAKIS wrote:Any one use this controler?

I don't believe it's out yet---maybe middle/end of the month at the earliest.

Dalibor Loncar · Post by **Dalibor Loncar** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:05 pm

i had the chance to play with that thingie at the frankfurt musikmesse.

the features of that affordable controller were realy impressive:
8 touch-sensitive rotary encoders, each with a led ring, 8 assignable and illuminated!!! buttons and a crossfader.
the guys at novation also implemented an "on mouse over" function that takes control of whatever your mouse is focused on a tweakable parameter in your software!

BUT
imho the nocturn suffers from a cheap build quality. the messe sample i played with already had 2 "scratchy" encoders. i asked the novation guy why the encoders already feel scratchy. he said it´s an early prototype model. hmmmmmm i found the crossfader has a wobbly feeling too.

in comparison with the faderfox controlers they feel more like toys. although the faderfoxes are very small and light they are build like a tank.

for serious live situations i would not take the nocturn. i would look for another controller. in a small studio the nocturn will definitely have its place.

the nocturn isn´t a high quality product but what do you expect given at such an affordable price ...

Damon_Chambers · Post by **Damon_Chambers** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:10 pm

for 100 bucks i want it for that speed knob. i HATE using the mouse to tweak various software knobs.

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:16 pm

Damon_Chambers wrote:for 100 bucks i want it for that speed knob. i HATE using the mouse to tweak various software knobs.

The speed knob is an odd thing... it doesn't always work right (I use the remote 25 compact sl) and in no way can I ever expect to it replace the mouse. I still find myself using the mouse (or in my case, trackpad) and more/less forgetting about the speed dial alltogether.

nonnus · Post by **nonnus** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:35 pm

thelike5:

can u dive a bit further on the oddities of he speed dial ?
like damon i was / am quite interested in that function alone

i was considering it to move warp markers as i think it is not possible to do it without a mouse

can u pls try to do it with your compact

mrweasel · Post by **mrweasel** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:16 am

Hi. Quick question:
Hi can see the speed dial knob has green LEDs around it.
It got me wondering:
Does the speed dial get midi feedback so you know the value of the parameter your mouse is over?

Bumblebeeman · Post by **Bumblebeeman** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:50 pm

preordered one from dolphin music uk in february.
just got an email from them to say that they will be getting them in on 30th April

melikoff · Post by **melikoff** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:36 am

sent an eMail to novation tech support asking for info about the availability of the Nocturn:

their answer:

I cannot put an exact date on it, but the nocturn should be available in by the end of the second quarter/beginning of the third quarter

so.. the end of the second quarter means and of august, beginning of september...

this really pisses me off.... now which controller should I buy... f()ckk!....

melikoff · Post by **melikoff** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:04 am

I gave up on nocturn...

I've bought novation zero sl...

have it here right now... have to wait 4.5 hours to finish work & go home! =)

furrybum · Post by **furrybum** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:13 am

melikoff wrote:sent an eMail to novation tech support asking for info about the availability of the Nocturn:

their answer:
I cannot put an exact date on it, but the nocturn should be available in by the end of the second quarter/beginning of the third quarter
so.. the end of the second quarter means and of august, beginning of september...

this really pisses me off.... now which controller should I buy... f()ckk!....

Wouldn't the end of the second quarter be june?

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:08 pm

Damon_Chambers wrote:for 100 bucks i want it for that speed knob. i HATE using the mouse to tweak various software knobs.

Griffin Powermate... set it to transmit up and down arrow keys and you're off.

gp23 · Post by **gp23** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:24 pm

Machinate wrote:
Damon_Chambers wrote:for 100 bucks i want it for that speed knob. i HATE using the mouse to tweak various software knobs.
Griffin Powermate... set it to transmit up and down arrow keys and you're off.

You would have to click on the parameter you want to control first with this though, wouldn't you? Still, not a big deal and it looks good. Are you actually using one with Live yourself?

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:44 pm

furrybum wrote:
melikoff wrote:sent an eMail to novation tech support asking for info about the availability of the Nocturn:

their answer:
I cannot put an exact date on it, but the nocturn should be available in by the end of the second quarter/beginning of the third quarter
so.. the end of the second quarter means and of august, beginning of september...

this really pisses me off.... now which controller should I buy... f()ckk!....
Wouldn't the end of the second quarter be june?

sweetwater indicates they will have it "in late may"

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Nocturn/

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:57 pm

nonnus wrote:thelike5:

can u dive a bit further on the oddities of he speed dial ?
like damon i was / am quite interested in that function alone

i was considering it to move warp markers as i think it is not possible to do it without a mouse

can u pls try to do it with your compact

I wish I could get into it further but I simply cannot ever get the thing to work! The speed dial to me was the least interesting peice to the Remote 25 Compact's marketing hype. BAsically, my understanding is that whatever your mouse/trackpads cursor is pointing to, the speed dial will automatically control. So if I have my cursor pointing to a tracks volume level in Live, in theroy the speed dial should then assume control over the level. This never works. I go to turn the speed dial knob and nothing happens. Meanwhile every other knob or button controls something in Live just like it's supposed to.

Maybe mine is broke? I dunno. Everything else works as it should. I'm probably doing something wrong but like I said, it's not that important to me and I haven't really dedicated that much time to figuring it out. The annoying thing is that there shouldn't be much to figure out!! The demo simply and clearly says the speed dial controls whatever the cursor is on!

Not on my controller!

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