Partial WACOM Tablet support for PC

veggieryan · Post by **veggieryan** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:50 am

ableton's lack of response is unacceptable.

here is a question: what is needed to get this working without middle click?
on XP that works fine, but there is no driver for middle click on vista....

i would be willing to paypal you for this feature.

I support a big post in the general forum with photos of this working to get people complaining about this again.

ggrrrr...
ryan.

veggieryan · Post by **veggieryan** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:24 am

update.

i emailed Wacom about vista divers, 2 days later they replied with a new vista driver with middle click:
http://www.wacom.com/productsupport/dow ... oduct=CTE4

now with pen 2 live, my toshiba duo tablet (tecra M7) and vista I am in heaven

Amaury · Post by **Amaury** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:33 am

veggieryan wrote:ableton's lack of response is unacceptable.

here is a question: what is needed to get this working without middle click?
on XP that works fine, but there is no driver for middle click on vista....

i would be willing to paypal you for this feature.

I support a big post in the general forum with photos of this working to get people complaining about this again.

ggrrrr...
ryan.

Hi,

I answered in the other thread:

We do listen and hear you. It seems that it is not THAT easy to develop the Wacom support on our side, but I will make sure it gets a good attention in our wishlist. I can't tell if or when it will be there exactly, but be sure it is seriously considered.

So, this won't happen overnight, but I'll point it out to our developers and see what they say.

Regards,
Amaury

veggieryan · Post by **veggieryan** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:04 am

Amaury wrote:
Hi,

I answered in the other thread:

We do listen and hear you. It seems that it is not THAT easy to develop the Wacom support on our side, but I will make sure it gets a good attention in our wishlist. I can't tell if or when it will be there exactly, but be sure it is seriously considered.

So, this won't happen overnight, but I'll point it out to our developers and see what they say.

Regards,
Amaury

Thank you for this response. This goes a long way to make us all feel better about this problem.
In the meantime, we will enjoy the hack..

looking forward to Live 7,
Sincerely,
Ryan.

queglay · Post by **queglay** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:40 pm

i love this wacom fix. great work. but i have problems with it because i cant use my windows key anymore. is there any way of fixing this?

leinad · Post by **leinad** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:41 pm

queglay wrote:i love this wacom fix. great work. but i have problems with it because i cant use my windows key anymore. is there any way of fixing this?

outdated -> http://www.d--------------e.de/files/Pen2Live1.3.zip
latest -> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=364919#364919

It's fixed in that release. Initially the winkey was used to enable/disable emulation mode because automatic detection did not work reliably, I left the code in it on purpose because I don't use the winkey and thought that blabla...

Another thing, it is necessary to set the focus to the desktop in order for this automatic detection to work, so you might have noticed that if you had keys mapped to trigger stuff in live, you first had to re-focus live (click on it with the pen tip) for the key mapping to work again. This has been fixed, live is re-focused automatically when the emulation mode exits, the only bad thing is that keys are not processed while a tablet is emulated. This can't be changed without a major effort for which I don't have time, I prefer to wait for a fix from Ableton.

Amaury wrote:We do listen and hear you. It seems that it is not THAT easy to develop the Wacom support on our side, but I will make sure it gets a good attention in our wishlist. I can't tell if or when it will be there exactly, but be sure it is seriously considered.

It's good news to hear that the priority of wacom support has increased.

http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/ibmpc/downloads.html
http://www.wacomeng.com/

Just 15 minutes away from receiving the first packets in your App...

Amaury, do you think that this could be fixed in a pre-7 release?

Daniel

ghostman74 · Post by **ghostman74** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:50 pm

leinad wrote:In the meantime I have been programming with the WACOM SDK and noticed that it is really a child's play to add native support for WACOM tablets to any App (pen2live is only a hack which modifies the mouse messages which Windows sends to Live). In less that 15 minutes I had direct access to all parameters (position, buttons, pressure, tilt).

Yeah, it really is. My company writes Penabled apps for doing door-to-door government surveys. ("And how many children live in your household, Mr Ghost?" "Oh, all my children use Live. Why?")

leinad wrote:It's really sad to see that Ableton is not caring about tablets. If they'd only realize how well they go together.

EddieJ · Post by **EddieJ** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:20 am

leinad · Post by **leinad** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:58 am

leinad · Post by **leinad** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:41 pm

queglay · Post by **queglay** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:47 am

could i also suggest when wacom suport is added, the ability to hold control and "wipe" note velocities? handy. i liked doing that in fruity. but i hate fruity. except for that.

queglay · Post by **queglay** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:29 am

TITBAG · Post by **TITBAG** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:29 pm

FUCKING ABLETON BULLSHITTERS. THIS IS WHY YOU ARE LOSING CUSTOMERS IN DROVES. ADD NATIVE WACOM SUPPORT, FIREONE SUPPORT AND EDIROL PCR-300/500/800 NATIVE SUPPORT IMMEDIATELY YOU SACK-SCRATCHERS

[nis] · Post by **[nis]** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:58 pm

perhaps your language is the reason why it hasn't been added yet.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:53 am

[nis] wrote:perhaps your language is the reason why it hasn't been added yet.

Quite frankly having been a loyal customer since 2003 and having been asking for simple tablet support for what seems like forever I, and everyone else here I am sure, would be pretty pissed off if that were actually the case. Fortunately we all know it isn't.

My guess is that it just isn't a priority, that's pretty obvious. Which is pretty irritating itself, but what can we do about it? Not upgrade? I've been doing that since version 5.

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