Ideas for your ideal Live controller

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Post by Alsamarkan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:46 am

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Post by Homebelly » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:00 am

Wow,,that is a cool idea.
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Post by Alsamarkan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:03 am

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Post by Bokonon » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:20 am

Alsamarkan wrote:simply the best!!! :wink:

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Do you want to post that again? I'm not sure if they saw it in space yet.

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Post by Alsamarkan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:20 am

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Post by forge » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:25 am

Alsamarkan wrote:Image
ha ha that would be the logo when this thread was first posted - if it was now it would be some kind of squashed high school concert band bug splat! :lol:

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Post by hambone1 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:30 am

In a word: modularity. An affordable Mawzer.

Many users, particularly those innovative users, have their own concepts and ideas of their ideal controller. Also, it can be a changing dynamic, even for an individual user. I like the idea of being able to chop and change a modular system based.

Also, IMO, bland generic controllers (and there are hundreds already), even Live-specific ones, just spawns another generation of lemmings using the same old equipment to do the same old thing in the same old way.

I'd love to see Behringer BCRR2000-style pricing and quality in a variety of user-configurable modules.
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Post by Alsamarkan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:54 am

therefore buy your faderfox!
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Post by hambone1 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:59 am

Faderfoxes are a far cry from the modularity of Mawzers.

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Post by ashtonron » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:20 pm

My ideal controller would be a 8x8 monome for firing clips with the ability to scroll up/down left/right for more tracks/clips. Each pad would have feedback to indicate the current state. e.g. triggered/on/off/loop and there would be transport controls for start stop etc.

knobs can be handled elsewhere

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Post by Bokonon » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:31 pm

hambone1 wrote:Faderfoxes are a far cry from the modularity of Mawzers.
However Faderfoxes you can buy, and Mawzer is a sketchy semi-vapourware nice idea but its been around for 2 years now (?) with no real fruition - have you seen their website? next to nothing works on it.

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Post by julienb » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:56 pm

my conclusion is: everyone needs a different controller...But I may make a mistake...
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Post by hambone1 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:06 pm

julienb wrote:my conclusion is: everyone needs a different controller...But I may make a mistake...
Hence why modularity makes such a good idea...

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Post by julienb » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:12 pm

hambone1 wrote:
julienb wrote:my conclusion is: everyone needs a different controller...But I may make a mistake...
Hence why modularity makes such a good idea...
indeed!!


all of those understood that already:
http://midibox.org (http://ucapps.de/)
http://www.arduino.cc/
http://wiring.org.co/hardware/
etc etc
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Post by kabuki » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:23 pm

ashtonron wrote:My ideal controller would be a 8x8 monome for firing clips with the ability to scroll up/down left/right for more tracks/clips. Each pad would have feedback to indicate the current state. e.g. triggered/on/off/loop and there would be transport controls for start stop etc.

knobs can be handled elsewhere
You can program a Monome to do this right now... fyi.

Scrolling can be done with button presses assigned to the Monome (4 buttons). That would leave the rest of the row for shift states (scene selection)

This would give you 8x7 buttons on a monome 64. PLus the shift states, that would be 224 buttons.

I am experimenting with using my monome with dummy clips for fading, and effects. I have almost figures out how to eliminate the need for KNobs and sliders by programming variations using dummy clips.

I HIGHLY recommend the monome.

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