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Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:24 pm

not a Gemini but close, as far as personalities go. I'm supposed to match with Geminis the best (married a Leo, it works.)

btw I've been thinking of starting a "hey baby, what's your sign" thread. can't vote on a per-sign basis, but can do the air-fire-earth-wind thing.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:29 pm

Angstrom wrote:
slatepipe wrote: though astrology - the moon influences the tides right? and mankind is what, made up of 80-90% water? maybe the moon and indeed other planets exert some kind of influence on us too?
the whole argument doesn;t stand up if you look at it for more than a second

We are made of water and the oceans are made of water, the oceans have tides therefore we have tides?

hmm, anyone smell a logical fallacy of false similarity?
There is an *ahem* slight difference of scale here, which is where the tides happen.

Tides are created because the Earth and the moon are gravitationally attracted to each other. The moon tries to pull at anything on the Earth to bring it closer. But, the Earth is able to hold onto everything except the water. Since the water is always moving, the Earth cannot hold onto it, and the moon is able to pull at it. So everything is being pulled by the same amount, it is just that the large bodies of water can't hang on so well.

There are stronger tides when the sun and moon are in alignment, but as for falling evenly into 12 divisable bands? Well, you would be seeing an eclipse of the sun every year on the same day if this nice tidy alignment theory were true. You don;t because it isn't.

As for the seasonal connection with any astrology?
the moons sidereal period is 27.32 days, our year is 365.24 days long. That makes the lunar alignment 13.36 rather than 12. so the horoscope ought to rotate around by 1.36 birth signs every year !

In addition ... personally my water is well saturated into my meat, and any gravitational forces are equally distrubuted throughout all my systems. My personal dimensions are not on the scale of an ocean, so what little fluid water I have is not really being pulled away from my body any more than my pubes are.

mmmm...that didnt really persuade me

I mean, I totally accept it might not exactly adhere to the current belief system attached to it, but I'm not sure I really get why the discrepancy in size of water bodies neccessarily makes any difference to whether the gravitational forces would affect them or not

for an ocean it results in these massively powerful things called waves that people can surf on

in humans maybe it just makes the difference between whether they feel like going down the boozer and getting in trouble or staying at home and watching never mind the buzzcocks

who the fuck knows?

i dont

andydes · Post by **andydes** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:31 pm

Maybe that would work if we always faced in the same direction every time we made a decision.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:31 pm

Tone Deft wrote:not a Gemini but close, as far as personalities go. I'm supposed to match with Geminis the best (married a Leo, it works.)

btw I've been thinking of starting a "hey baby, what's your sign" thread. can't vote on a per-sign basis, but can do the air-fire-earth-wind thing.

now I'm intrigued

are you a Libra, Aquarius or Saggitarius?

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:37 pm

andydes wrote:Maybe that would work if we always faced in the same direction every time we made a decision.

maybe that's what mecca is all about

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:37 pm

Libra FTW!

I think.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:39 pm

BTW

To: Forum Moderators

I just remembered we have totally destroyed a rather silly thread

huzzah!

mdk · Post by **mdk** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:41 pm

forge wrote:
andydes wrote:Maybe that would work if we always faced in the same direction every time we made a decision.
maybe that's what mecca is all about

thats exactly what i thought.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:42 pm

forge wrote:BTW

To: Forum Moderators
I just remembered we have totally destroyed a rather silly thread

huzzah!

how the hell is he supposed to wade through all this to find out why Impulse isn't working right?

damnit!!

btw this needs to be stickied, or put into a signature

Live topic site:www.ableton.com
typed into google searches the forum/site for "Live topic"

aaaaaanyway... I'll start that 'whats your sign?' thread later. just waking up here, need to be into work in 20 minutes!!

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:42 pm

Here's my take on astrology / tarot / iching etc:

If the omen is good, I'm like, 'Sweet!'

If the omen is bad, I'm like, 'Well it's a good thing I don't believe in that shit anyway.'

Reminds me of a bumper sticker concept developed in 2001: 'Believe in stuff'

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:45 pm

Incidentally this guy writes the best horoscopes ever:

http://freewillastrology.com/

..not that I believe in that sort of silly stuff!

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:47 pm

OvertoneZero wrote:Here's my take on astrology / tarot / iching etc:

If the omen is good, I'm like, 'Sweet!'

If the omen is bad, I'm like, 'Well it's a good thing I don't believe in that shit anyway.'

Reminds me of a bumper sticker concept developed in 2001: 'Believe in stuff'

reminds me of my aunt who said 'if it's good I believe it, if it's bad I dont'

"believe in stuff"

pretty much spot on

though I just want to make clear - i dont "believe in" any of this - this is all just speculation on what might be behind it all

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:49 pm

Tone Deft wrote: how the hell is he supposed to wade through all this to find out why Impulse isn't working right?

actually maybe he is just meant to come up with a different understanding of what 'impulse' is all about

andydes · Post by **andydes** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:49 pm

Tone Deft wrote:aaaaaanyway... I'll start that 'whats your sign?' thread later.

The OP will be delighted to hear that.

slatepipe · Post by **slatepipe** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:57 pm

i know its not really much of an argument and it probably doesnt 'hold much water', but if i was going to have some kind of belief in astrology, and i guess i do but just a tiny bit. then the moon and tides thing would provide me with a sort of explanation.

and when i was on about the moon and planets possibly having some kind of influence on us i meant like mankind as a whole, as a mainly water based thing that is spread over the earth, and from that i guess all living things too

but like forge said , who the fuck knows, i certainly dont

i do get moody sometimes too, and i go to the pub often as well

seen this? :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3GJmkUZlyo