MBP to be updated in June

misteron · Post by **misteron** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:27 am

...according to article linked below.

As I am about to buy a MBP I'm wondering is it worth waiting so as to get the same MBP at a lower price?

Anyone have any idea how much of a price drop to expect on the current lowest spec MBP?

This will be my first mac so I don't know how much prices typically drop at update time.

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/11/buy ... m-in-2009/

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:06 am

Generally speaking the prices stay the same but the model moves down the ladder.
So, this weeks top of the line MBP becomes the next weeks mid price MBP and so on with the top one being replaced with a faster model. This isn't a 100% rule though. Some times they might replace the entire line with a new model, or they might replace both the top model and the mid model and the lowest model is a combination of the two previous versions, the same CPU but limited expansion for example, and the top model is an introduction to the next version of the CPU.
This time round there is also speculation that the entire range might get a design change. The aesthetics of the Mac Book Pro/Ti-Book/Power book hasn't changed in a long time. So it might be that what we now think of as being the MB-Pro might well become the next version of the Mac Book (consumer) and we get a whole new Mac Book Pro line.

marcoskohler · Post by **marcoskohler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:53 am

I plan on waiting till summer, just in case they redo the new MBP look to that of the MacBook Air, plus the processor speed bump etc

Olga · Post by **Olga** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:58 am

misteron wrote:...according to article linked below.

As I am about to buy a MBP I'm wondering is it worth waiting so as to get the same MBP at a lower price?

Anyone have any idea how much of a price drop to expect on the current lowest spec MBP?

This will be my first mac so I don't know how much prices typically drop at update time.

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/11/buy ... m-in-2009/

To me, a Mac Book Pro at this time just doesn't make sense unless your totally loaded and money is no object. The new 2.4Ghz Mac Books with 4Gb memory are fast enough to program anything in Live. Don't like the little screen? Pick up a cheap 17" lcd and connect it to the mini Dvi. Mac Book/Big Screen.

Spending an extra $2,000 on a stock 17" Mac book pro that you use at home and then go gigging with is a nightmare as there are idiots in every club on earth just waiting to spill beer and vodka red bulls all over your shiny new MBP. Its too big a risk imo.

And if your not doing any gigging at all but just programming music, dropping the $$$ on a 17" MBPro makes no sense as you could get a Mac Pro Tower at the same price, and have 10 x's the power at your finger tips.

All my opinion of course as you didn't specify which MBP model you are looking to buy. I'm assuming the 17"

marcoskohler · Post by **marcoskohler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:05 am

I checked out the 17" at the apple store...way too fucking huge. I can't see myself wanting to take that ANYWHERE. MBP are good if you want to also do graphics things, such as Jitter and movie editing.

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:23 am

I gig, work and play on my 17" mbp 2.4. I can drop into production/ableton mode whenever/wherever. It's pretty light compared to my old Dell I used to lug around

misteron · Post by **misteron** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:29 am

Olga wrote:as you didn't specify which MBP model you are looking to buy. I'm assuming the 17"

Its the 15" I want. The lowest spec one.
The main reason for going MBP instead of MB is the TI chipset.
The MB spec is fine for my needs I'm sure, and I even have a spare screen,
but if I'm going Mac it is so that I don't need to mess around with compatibility issues (otherwise I would buy a PC at a third the price

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marcoskohler · Post by **marcoskohler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:40 am

timothyallan wrote:I gig, work and play on my 17" mbp 2.4. I can drop into production/ableton mode whenever/wherever. It's pretty light compared to my old Dell I used to lug around

but its so big (size not weight)!!

dazzer · Post by **dazzer** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:41 am

misteron wrote:
Olga wrote:as you didn't specify which MBP model you are looking to buy. I'm assuming the 17"
Its the 15" I want. The lowest spec one.
The main reason for going MBP instead of MB is the TI chipset.
The MB spec is fine for my needs I'm sure, and I even have a spare screen,
but if I'm going Mac it is so that I don't need to mess around with compatibility issues (otherwise I would buy a PC at a third the price )

While I take your point on the whole TI chipset thing (that was the main reason why I originally bought a MBP) it's a lot of extra cash just for that one difference. My new MB works fine with my interface, I just took it to the Apple Reseller and told them "lemme hook it up, download Live and run the performance test. If it works, I'll buy it". It did, so I did.

As for marcoskohler buying a new styled MBP in June, dude, would you really buy a first gen Apple product? Actually, scratch that, every gen Apple product lately seems to introduce new bugs and incompatibilities.

tl;dr : stop fretting about it so much, try something out in a shop, if it works, buy it.

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:09 am

here is my premonition based on the shadows in the water, how the birds fly, the shapes in the bottom of the tea cup and my long range astrological forcast.
I'm thinking the present style and build of the mac book pro will become the new Mac Book (Consumer). And the next generation Mac Pro/Mac book pro will take on the same design aesthetics as the latest iMac and will probably include Blueray,, if not straight out the gate, then probably with in the first or second revision. I would also guess that they will start at 3gig dual core CPU's in the MBP.
My guess is based on the January revision of the Mac Pro getting the last of the intel generation of that chip and also the fact that they are cataloged as Mac Pro (early 2008), there is also the fact that the last MBP revision was only a slight speed bump and no design change. Every other aspect of the apple range has had some kind of design change except the G5/Intel MP and the MBP which have basically been the same for the last four(?) years at least.
I am so confident that this is the way things will work out that i will post a picture of my belly button in this thread if i am wrong

postmixformula · Post by **postmixformula** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:12 am

I'm an Apple Tech.. I've gotta say that I've seen first hand more problems with the MacBook range than the MBP range. My main advice is whichever machine you get, make sure you buy the Apple Protection Plan - once it's outta warranty it will cost a bomb to repair!!

The other thing is that no matter what machine you get, you will always at some point max out the CPU's. I went from a G4 iBook to a 15" MBP.. it was great at first, but now my mappings are far more intricate and I'm back at the same place I left the G4 iBook albeit w more complexity.

Point to note: With the MacBook it steals RAM from the system RAM because it doesn't have dedicated VRAM.. it's fairly negligible (given that you can whack 4GB's of RAM in it) but worth considering. The MBP's are running well and reasonably free of issues as of this current model.. a good time to get one.

Also, I heard that in the next revision of the Express Card Slot (I think version 3), which is only in the MBP range, the machines will be able to have CPU expansion via a PC card. Knowing Apple this will mean that by the time version 4 comes out they will have something that can expand the CPU's via the card slot. I wish I could find the article I read.. Anyone else know anything about this?

The bottom line is: get what you need when you need it. get an extended warranty with any product that you'll keep for more than one year. don't buy Apple RAM as it's a rip-off.

muthafunka · Post by **muthafunka** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:22 am

postmixformula wrote:Also, I heard that in the next revision of the Express Card Slot (I think version 3), which is only in the MBP range, the machines will be able to have CPU expansion via a PC card. Knowing Apple this will mean that by the time version 4 comes out they will have something that can expand the CPU's via the card slot.

WOW!

logic_user99 · Post by **logic_user99** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:47 am

Ok, so is anyone actually recommending a laptop? I've got the last revision 12" G4PB and it's becoming painfully slow for doing anything half-complex in Live.

Am contemplating the baby MacBook as it's only £700 (and I recon I could get £375ish for the G4 if I time the sale right). Does anyone want to buy a G4 PowerBook?

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:09 am

I read about the new MBP in June about one or two months ago already and decided to wait for them:

1. Intel claims that Montevina mainboards can be build upto 40% smaller, additionally they will consume less energy and produce less heat. This should result in an overall new design for MBPs that could be lighter and smaller or pack more power into the same form-factor while staying cooler.

2. I'm not only a musician but also like to meet with friends for gaming from time to time. I expect the new MBPs to make use of the Nvidia 9600GT which both has more processing power and consumes less energy than the 8600GT. And even for non-gamers this is interesting.

3. I'm busy enough playing with all my new toys around my desktop, I can wait another quarter of a year.

And even if I decide against a new MBP the "old" ones should be considerably cheaper by then.

My main advice is whichever machine you get, make sure you buy the Apple Protection Plan - once it's outta warranty it will cost a bomb to repair!!

You want me to pay 430 Euro additionally (24%) for a 1800 Euro MBP just to get 2 more years of warranty? Get lost!

Sorry, no offence, but that's ridiculous pricing. Other vendors also offer extended warranties, but at considerably lower prices. And in Europe every private customer get's 2 years warranty from his dealer (eventhough the poor dealer then has to see how to get that thing repaired if it happens between year 1 and 2 because Apple is a greedy pile of ...).

freshdrumma · Post by **freshdrumma** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:13 am

the MP i have is falling apart after 2 years of touring...
the Powerbook alluminium i have from 6 years, it's still ok!!!!

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