[url]hy use impulse when we have drum racks?

numerotre · Post by **numerotre** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:03 pm

What do you use impulse for, in ableton 7?
cuz i cannot find a good reason to use it over drum racks...[/url]

globalgoon · Post by **globalgoon** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:05 pm

legacy

plus it does timestretching

Maninkari · Post by **Maninkari** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:16 pm

globalgoon wrote:plus it does timestretching

it's the only factor. but as I don't need it that often...

I always thought that impulse sucked. drum racks is brilliant

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:09 pm

Maninkari wrote:
globalgoon wrote:plus it does timestretching
it's the only factor. but as I don't need it that often...

I always thought that impulse sucked. drum racks is brilliant

+1

globalgoon · Post by **globalgoon** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:22 pm

Maninkari wrote:
globalgoon wrote:plus it does timestretching
it's the only factor. but as I don't need it that often...

I always thought that impulse sucked. drum racks is brilliant

it's not the only factor if you open up a set from 2 years ago which uses impulses.

andrewbrewer · Post by **andrewbrewer** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:02 pm

impulse can be abused in some strange ways. there is a dark-side

jp76 · Post by **jp76** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:09 pm

Two things I liked better about Impulse -

-I could route each drum to an audio track, then send those tracks to one of Live's main returns.

-When I loaded a sample, it was default 100% velocity. It's annoying to have to turn this up on Simpler every time I drop in a sample, especially if I'm auditioning a bunch in a row.

condra · Post by **condra** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:42 pm

Because it's quick and dirty.

babkubwa · Post by **babkubwa** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:53 pm

I would really like a better way to convert old impulse kits to drum racks. -ie each impulse sound on its own square - is this not possible? I'm I missing something?

I do love impulse for quick percussion stuff with my trigger finger - with a few knobs mapped to stuff like time and pitch - very quick and dirty indeed!

onslaught · Post by **onslaught** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:57 am

jp76 wrote: -When I loaded a sample, it was default 100% velocity. It's annoying to have to turn this up on Simpler every time I drop in a sample, especially if I'm auditioning a bunch in a row.

You can create your own default Simpler preset with velocity set at whatever % you need.

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:54 am

onslaught wrote:
jp76 wrote: -When I loaded a sample, it was default 100% velocity. It's annoying to have to turn this up on Simpler every time I drop in a sample, especially if I'm auditioning a bunch in a row.
You can create your own default Simpler preset with velocity set at whatever % you need.

That doesn't work as it should. When loading only a Simpler, it loads with my velocity setting, but when loading a new sample in a drum rack, it's back at 0% (and 50 ms release which is also annoying)

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:26 am

Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:
onslaught wrote:
jp76 wrote: -When I loaded a sample, it was default 100% velocity. It's annoying to have to turn this up on Simpler every time I drop in a sample, especially if I'm auditioning a bunch in a row.
You can create your own default Simpler preset with velocity set at whatever % you need.
That doesn't work as it should. When loading only a Simpler, it loads with my velocity setting, but when loading a new sample in a drum rack, it's back at 0% (and 50 ms release which is also annoying)

When dropping a sample or multiple samples on a Drum Rack.
Create an empty Sampler or Simpler, set its parameters as you like, and manually drag that device (without sample) to Library/Defaults/Dropping Samples/On Drum Rack..

logic_user99 · Post by **logic_user99** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:32 am

I really like Impulse - I think it actually sounds just that little bit 'fatter' for kicks (esp. a nice 808). The saturation knob is also special... wanna get dirty?

Drum Racks are good, too, but they seem to hog quite alot of CPU power (could just be my machine) and mapping them out can be quite complex and time consuming!

The Crane · Post by **The Crane** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:44 am

Being able to globally transpose a whole impulse kit up and down is a nice effect which is more hassle to do in drum racks

Nick the Zombie · Post by **Nick the Zombie** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:18 pm

Poster wrote:
Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:
onslaught wrote: You can create your own default Simpler preset with velocity set at whatever % you need.
That doesn't work as it should. When loading only a Simpler, it loads with my velocity setting, but when loading a new sample in a drum rack, it's back at 0% (and 50 ms release which is also annoying)
When dropping a sample or multiple samples on a Drum Rack.
Create an empty Sampler or Simpler, set its parameters as you like, and manually drag that device (without sample) to Library/Defaults/Dropping Samples/On Drum Rack..

Another possibility is just to use the "velocity" MIDI effect and convert all incoming notes to full velocity.