has everything been done?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.

has eveything been done?

Yes
17
27%
No
45
73%
 
Total votes: 62

David Brent
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Post by David Brent » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:04 pm

pepezabala wrote:there is this theory that says that the universe is accellerating until everything that is possible is going to happen simultaneously. If you listen to breakcore you might find that we almost reached that point.

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Post by inmazevo » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:16 pm

I think so many things have been done that it certainly feels like "Yes," however:
Music is complex, and whether something is actually "done" or not depends on the listeners comparisons/influences/priorities.

I mean, if you want to, you can take a country-western ballad about stolen horses and cheap beer, triple the bpm and put it through some distortion and slice it a little, add a nice break-kicken rhythm, and some people will scream "rip off (ie - been done)" and other people will go "damn dude, what made you think of doing that?" (and others, of course, will just ask what the hell you were thinking).

Been done is relative.

What strikes me periodically, however, is how unique some acts sound to me (for years sometimes), and then later I'll find something obscure that sounds just like it, from a decade (or more) earlier.

Been done also has a lot to do with whether YOU'VE actually heard it before or know about it.

Doesn't matter though. Like others have said: I'm still enjoying myself, and think I always will be.

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Post by shhhhh » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:46 pm

inmazevo wrote:I mean, if you want to, you can take a country-western ballad about stolen horses and cheap beer, triple the bpm and put it through some distortion and slice it a little, add a nice break-kicken rhythm, and some people will scream "rip off (ie - been done)" and other people will go "damn dude, what made you think of doing that?" (and others, of course, will just ask what the hell you were thinking).
I'd rather consider that everything's been done than listen to the result of this.

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Post by djgroovy » Thu May 01, 2008 1:05 am

Original poster said wrote: Has everything been done?
No, there is still a lack of electronicfolktripcorenewwavecountryrock in 7/8 time performed with a Beamz Music Performance system, but with a twist.

Seriously now, a lot of things are still to be discovered - like always has been.
Even if it's the little things.

Until they invent the brain-to-music interface.
Or, almost as likely, we get some cycleton goodies which is the next best! :wink:

Just came to my mind that direct note access from melodyne.
There's a REAL breakthrough, imho.

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Post by xzusa8ky » Thu May 01, 2008 11:21 am

I guess not!
Nobody have been producing with live on mars!

So theres plenty of space out there, pluto, saturn, milk galyxy.......

So i will keep on dicking deeper..........or higher......8O
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Post by Patch » Thu May 01, 2008 11:48 am

We need to breed musicians. Take a bunch of Genes from talented musicians from all genres, and create 10 or 20 clones. Then, lock the little bastards in a room for 20 years with nothing but musical theory books and instruments.

See what they come up with...

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Post by forge » Thu May 01, 2008 1:04 pm

Patch wrote:We need to breed musicians. Take a bunch of Genes from talented musicians from all genres, and create 10 or 20 clones. Then, lock the little bastards in a room for 20 years with nothing but musical theory books and instruments.

See what they come up with...
they did that

who do you think wrote Tiesto's stuff?
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Post by Moody » Thu May 01, 2008 3:12 pm

Patch wrote:We need to breed musicians. Take a bunch of Genes from talented musicians from all genres, and create 10 or 20 clones. Then, lock the little bastards in a room for 20 years with nothing but musical theory books and instruments.

See what they come up with...
The lack of theory may be what is needed.
Ableton’s engineers are hard
at work developing code that will allow our software to predict the future, but we don’t
anticipate having this available until at least the next major release.

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Post by snakedogman » Thu May 01, 2008 4:06 pm

yes there are only so many notes and so many chords and so many combinations of them, but add in different tempos, different instruments, samples, singers and players and there's no way that "everything has been done" or will ever be done. Maybe a certain techno song uses the same notes or chords in the same order as a 60's rock song but obviously it wouldn't sound the same.

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Post by Warminstrel » Thu May 01, 2008 4:25 pm

I think I'd be right in saying that most of us forum users have a real passion for music:

Keeps us locked in rooms,
Out of the pub,
Away from our WAG's (wives and g-friends, could be HAB's too ladies),
Posting on forums when we should be working.........

This passion, to me at least is like a fire burning inside. I might not always be happy with the results but the passion still carries on.

Been making tunes of one kind or another since my early teens 30+ years ago - influenced by hundreds of artists and have never been bored.

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Post by Machinate » Thu May 01, 2008 5:29 pm

Hmm well. combinations. There are so many factors its nearly impossible to see an end on the varieties.

Of course most chord changes have been done, but then if you add a new things in between etcettera. All sounds done? Hm no. but so what? Many tracks use a supersaw and a guitar. Its not that big deal.

RYTHMS? Again combinations. Besides, if you listen, there are often new rythms in. And then again, the sounds counts here. And lots of things. And effects.


Don't worry, i'd say.

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Post by Marx » Thu May 01, 2008 5:53 pm

Wow I was surprised to see that 28%!!! of people that voted said yes. these people must be completely jaded by their lack of musical progress and/or talent.

Jusrt in the last ten years technology has made some of the most crazy unbelievable leaps forward in music i.e. Reaktor's completely modular instrument building interface, the Moog voyager, every software DAW and effects plug in out there. For god's sake, people are saying that everythings already been done in the ABLETON FORUM!? 15 years ago I don't think any musician could even imagine a program like Ableton.

Obviously the people that said yes have never heard bands like STS9, Glitch Mob, and Flying Lotus. All use Live and all are completely original and different in the way they use it.

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