midi question: using midi notes to control parameters

davec1 · Post by **davec1** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:57 pm

I'm trying to assign midi notes to various parameters such as send knobs and device on/off switches. I was under the strong impression that I did this before and it worked like a charm the sends opening and closing fully at the press of a midi key.

However, now all they seem to do is twitch and I'm not quite so sure anymore if I maybe was hallucinating that it worked previously. even holding the note continously doesn't help though, same goes for toggling vsts on and off.

any ideas what could be the reason and whether this is actually possible (I could swear it worked before....)?

noise · Post by **noise** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:09 am

works like a champ here in Live 7...
I was actually looking to do the same, but currently- MIDI note assigned to a parameter only acts as an on switch (IE- i hit the key once to turn on the parameter and again to turn it off...)
My question:
Is there a way to change that behavior to a key on/off?
(I'd like to see this behavior: hit the MIDI note, the parameter turns on; release the MIDI note, the parameter turns off...)

I know there are assignable launch behaviors for clips... is there any way to assign the behaviors of MIDI notes assigned to parameters? ("gating" in this case...)

if not- consider this a FR!

Seyser Koze · Post by **Seyser Koze** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:47 am

You need to program your peripheral to send Midi CC instead of note, then you can get the value to a rotary or a fader.

Note is great for on/off, but you need CC for continuous or for press on, release off settings.

mook@skewer · Post by **mook@skewer** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:48 am

Not sure if a key can be used in that way as unlike a button, slider or joystick it tends to just be either on or off. That said, if you have a keyboard with velocity and aftertouch it should be able to interprate how you press the key

planet_b · Post by **planet_b** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:54 am

I've been wondering the same, as on Akai MPD24 you can only map either note on/off or program change -messages to the pads. As with my previous Korg Microkontrol the pads could be assigned to control change -message aswell, so I am missing the "press and hold pad for device on, release pad for device off" -behaviour (great for Live reverb's "freeze" function also).

Are external softwares for converting MIDI messages to something else, the only way to get this? Any recommendation on which one to use for Windows, Bome Midi Translator seem to have lot of features, any simple, tiny software for translating just note on/off to CC message.. ?

bvl · Post by **bvl** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:51 pm

davec1 wrote:I'm trying to assign midi notes to various parameters such as send knobs and device on/off switches. I was under the strong impression that I did this before and it worked like a charm the sends opening and closing fully at the press of a midi key.

However, now all they seem to do is twitch and I'm not quite so sure anymore if I maybe was hallucinating that it worked previously. even holding the note continously doesn't help though, same goes for toggling vsts on and off.

any ideas what could be the reason and whether this is actually possible (I could swear it worked before....)?

I'm having the exact same issue here - trying to get one of the pads on my Trigger Finger to turn a Live device on/off, and it's just twitching on/off when I hit the pad. I have "ctrl mute" switched on, so it's clearly just getting the note data. I've verified that the note is shown as being mapped in the MIDI mapping screen.

I've got it working using the 3rd party app MidiStroke to convert the pad to a keystroke, but I'd much rather keep it in Live.

I'm running 6.0.7 - could it be fixed in 6.0.10?

Bill

cmefli · Post by **cmefli** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:31 am

bump! would really love to figure this one out!

tap pad = note on
release pad = note off
(using an mpd24)

maybe midistroke or controlaid? there has to be a way!

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:04 am

cmefli wrote:bump! would really love to figure this one out!

tap pad = note on
release pad = note off
(using an mpd24)

maybe midistroke or controlaid? there has to be a way!

try destroyFX midigater

cmefli · Post by **cmefli** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:30 am

thanks for the reply longjohns, ill give it a try tonight!
anyone else got any ideas?

King Dza Dza · Post by **King Dza Dza** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:41 am

longjohnson will do it without problems with midipipe on mac

Gleidus · Post by **Gleidus** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:48 pm

I've solved this problem by creating a clip with automation data, and use the midi note to trigger that clip. The trade off is, it's not dynamic, you can only do one certain kind of automation per clip.

This really helps when you want to do a large series of automations, but don't have enough hands to do it.

Doing this kind of operation with on a midi track is very easy.

However you may find this difficult to do on an audio track. The way I solved this is to send the audio to a midi track, with something that can accept audio. I just use reaktor, and let it pass the audio through. Then whatever FX you want automated, can be mapped with a clip.

cmefli · Post by **cmefli** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:20 pm

thanks for the replies! can anyone confirm it can be done with midistroke? that way with the automated clips sounds good, a little too complicated for me!

bvl · Post by **bvl** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:27 pm

davec1 wrote:I'm trying to assign midi notes to various parameters such as send knobs and device on/off switches. I was under the strong impression that I did this before and it worked like a charm the sends opening and closing fully at the press of a midi key.

However, now all they seem to do is twitch and I'm not quite so sure anymore if I maybe was hallucinating that it worked previously. even holding the note continously doesn't help though, same goes for toggling vsts on and off.

any ideas what could be the reason and whether this is actually possible (I could swear it worked before....)?

I was having the exact same issue, and figured out what it was.

I actually ended up finding out that my Trigger Finger wasn't working to send button toggles because I had the IAC bus turned out & it was interfering (that's why the button would turn on & then immediately turn off again).

I did end up trying out Midi Stroke, and it worked fine, but since I'd rather keep everything inside Live I just used the MIDI mapping inside live.

bvl

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