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by funknotik » Wed May 21, 2008 1:19 am
I'm just gonna post this again so you can have the historical perspective on whether jesus was real or not. Zeitgeist is inaccurate on a whole lot of levels and many of my pothead friends have been obsessing over it for too long. This movie fits in really well with the David Icke crowd, but thats a whole other mountain of bullshit. Anyway please read this....
Do you believe that Jesus was a composite of Pagan Gods?
Short answer: Yes and no. Longer answer: Jesus is a composite of many different elements, and it honestly depends on which Jesus you’re talking about in order to really make this distinction. If we are looking at Paul’s Jesus, then his savior is a combination of Orphic, Essenic and Rabbincal traditions, reflecting some themes from each. If we read Mark’s Gospel alone, Jesus is a composite of five elements: (1) Moses (2) Joshua (3) Homer’s epics (specifically Odysseus) (4) the Hebrew scriptures (mainly the prophets) (5) and Orpheus. Matthew’s Jesus is decidedly more Jewish, although Orphic themes show through because Matthew, like Mark, is interpreting Paul’s letters which contain these themes. Luke’s Jesus is both anti-Marcionite but pro-Pauline. John’s Gospel is a specific type of Gnosticism, which has its roots in Jewish and Greek mystery cults. They mostly reflect Orphic and Dionysian traditions, and thus reflect Orpheus and Dionysus.
The claim that Jesus is a compilation of other Egyptian and Eastern demi-Gods is not founded in any fact. Jesus reflects Egyptian culture because of the Diasporic influence of Egyptian culture on exiled Jews living in Egypt. The Hebrew Scriptures, more than Jesus, reflect more Egyptian influence than anything else. And because the Gospel authors are interpreting scripture, the influence comes through. But there is no direct influence from Horus or Osirius, and there is certainly no evidence at all of eastern traditions like Krishna or Buddha having an influence on the authors of the Gospels—or even Jews in general. This is outdated scholarship that lacks serious evidence required to make such assumptions. I do not support it. The only pagan God that has any direct effect on Christianity is Orpheus, and in some cases Dionysus. And the evidence for this is overwhelming.
-Rook Hawkins
ps. religion is bullshit.
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Why, why, why??? This is lame, why take a perfectly good start debunking religion and get into 9/11?? IMO we could have video of Bush and Bin Laden discussing the WTC attacks with speaches, Lego models and interpretive dance with the DVD signed by both of them and a notary public and it would not matter. We need to be proactive about today. 9/11 conspiracies are just farting in the wind. I buy into them but I don't see the point.