The time for change has begun... Obama clinches D-Ticket

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Post by ethios4 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:55 pm

I think it will be close against McCain, but I bet Obama will win. The biggest mistake he could make right now would be to have Clinton as running-mate, IMO.

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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:10 pm

No way.


There is no way that this country will elect a black man that has a funny not so american sounding name and is assumed to be an undercover Muslim. Sorry, not gonna happen. I'd love to say that it's possible, but I think it's highly unlikely no matter what people say in public. Take a look around, this whole country is about being covertly racist and xenophobic. Word on the street is that we are sooooo progressive, our actions as a nation tell another story.


I hope I'm proven wrong.


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Post by liveISlife » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:10 pm

I may not have read an economy book and I may be uneducated but I do have eyes that look around and see shit. I see people struggling. I see people in fear of there own neighbors. I see kids popping any kind of prescription med u can think (prescribed and unprescribed) I see kids going through cookie cutter public schools that teach the most general curriculum in other words dumbing kids down. I see more people dieing from cancer then ever. I see people buying there over weight kids soda at the pizza shop. I see more and more people being pulled over by cops each year. I see millions of soldiers in iraq die. Not only our soldiers but iraq civilians which includes women and children. How can we go around spreading democracy when we can't even have a proper democratic election in this country. Cmon 304,249,871 people in the U.S. and what do I have to choose from? Three fucking soulless puppets. Wake the fuck up people this country is not what it used to be. The world fucking hates us because yes what we do does effect the world and we are currently fucking it up. Take your idiot looking american goggles off. Well if ur boy here gets in how bout we come back here and see how much hope has changed shit. It probably won't even matter he could start a new holocaust and kill 90% of the people in the world and you would just be like "YAY HOPE!"
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Post by Emissary » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:12 pm

now i am just waiting for the character assassination of obama that magically swings hilary back into pole position :D

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Post by Tarekith » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:14 pm

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I'll never know where I lost my dream
Who's that, what's that, gimme your name
3rd of June, end of game

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Post by C.S. » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:04 pm

leisuremuffin wrote: There is no way that this country will elect a black man that has a funny not so american sounding name and is assumed to be an undercover Muslim. Sorry, not gonna happen...
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Completely agree. Unless a lot has changed since I left the US I cannot see this happening. Obama might get the coasts but there is a whole lot of country in between that I could never see voting for him.

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Post by DjViral » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:54 pm

liveISlife wrote:I may not have read an economy book and I may be uneducated but I do have eyes that look around and see shit. I see people struggling. I see people in fear of there own neighbors. I see kids popping any kind of prescription med u can think (prescribed and unprescribed) I see kids going through cookie cutter public schools that teach the most general curriculum in other words dumbing kids down. I see more people dieing from cancer then ever. I see people buying there over weight kids soda at the pizza shop. I see more and more people being pulled over by cops each year. I see millions of soldiers in iraq die. Not only our soldiers but iraq civilians which includes women and children. How can we go around spreading democracy when we can't even have a proper democratic election in this country. Cmon 304,249,871 people in the U.S. and what do I have to choose from? Three fucking soulless puppets. Wake the fuck up people this country is not what it used to be. The world fucking hates us because yes what we do does effect the world and we are currently fucking it up. Take your idiot looking american goggles off. Well if ur boy here gets in how bout we come back here and see how much hope has changed shit. It probably won't even matter he could start a new holocaust and kill 90% of the people in the world and you would just be like "YAY HOPE!"
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Post by brightonalex » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:31 pm

Why can't we all just learn to love one another?

I've written a rap tune. Cheerleaders could sing it in their knickers and i could download it. Here it is...

YOU OBAMA you're our man!
If you can't do it,
no one can! (at least for while, eh? If you're not like President Palmer there'll be some problems. Anyway..)

YOU OBAMA! You're no bummer,
You are cooler than my mamma,
You appeal to both a farmer
and a rich man in a hummer,
you are such a natural charmer,
you penetrate my English armour.

We don't care if you're quite black,
You're the man we want to back,
Your moving speeches we applaud
and at least you're not a broad.

You might be a friend of Allah but
Madge is a follower of Kabbala and
You both create a great big buzz,
From the stuff that is what you does.

Your history I want to search
but get confused about the church;
Ambiguity around religion,
brings you down perhaps a smidgen. BUT

When you get in we'll all be free
you'll be you and I'll be me,
there'll be no need for crippling taxes
you and me we'll just relaxes.

You and all your fellow brothers
will be nothing like all the others,
You'll relieve us of our care,
It won't be same as Tony Blair. (in 1997).

In conclusion, I should say
your proud win has made my day.
I would be a US resident
if you was my president.

8)
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Post by b0unce » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:36 pm

Hillary appeals to working class white fucks.
that's what the televisual news-o-mongs say.
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Post by Huey » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:43 pm

What change???? Neither one, Clinton or Obama has presented a plan for this so called "change" The candidates are all bark and no substance. Obama=no experience and no plan. Clinton=no experience, no plan, only thinks of what is good for Hillary and not the American people. They both are eliquent speakers (replace the words Bullshitters if you like). They say what we want to hear. Either way, if Obama chooses Clinton, its a death sentence for their election. There is no way a self centered control freak like Clinton is going to work in harmony with Obama after she has spent the last year smearing this guy. Its her way back into the White House.

Then they will take more of our money with taxes, they will do nothing for the economy, they will do nothing about the cost of gas, food, etc. just like Congress (democratic by the way). I am already over taxed and those two will take more.

None of the three will get my vote, because one will follow the same policies we already have and the other two lying jackasses who have not outlined how they will change jack shit or even put forth a plan to the people they are singing their song of hope too. It's amazing that the American people are buying into this shit these two spew.

I will exercise my right to not vote until someone says something substantial.
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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:53 pm

i'm not voting for any republican or democrat. I never have and never will.

...but, what you are saying is absolutely retarded. Of course Obama has a plan. Go read where he stands on his website. No politician has ever marketed their campaign on a "plan." They *all* spout jingoistic bullshit, every last one of them. You have to do some research to find out where they're at.




what gives you the impression that Obama will tax more and do nothing for the economy? You didn't happen to notice that the last time the US was in a tough spot economically it was a democratic president that brought us out? And that Bush singlehandedly threw our economy right back into the shitter? Remeber how the national defecit had been cleared under Clinton? If you're for the economy, and are going to vote for a major party candidate, you'd have to think that you need to go with the democrat....




whatever.




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Post by b0unce » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:59 pm

btw, it should be 'the time for change has come' .... but it hasn't, so don't bother correcting it I guess.
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Post by Huey » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:07 pm

I remember the economy and a democrat did not bring it out of trouble. there is where research of the economic cycles would come in handy for ya. As Bush the 1st was ending his term as president the economy was on an upswing. Clinton rode the economic wave to glory. The economy runs in cycles of approximately 4 to 8 years going good to not so good. That data exist everywhere, from economic journals to the internet. Coinsidentally presidental elections are every 4 years. Therefor, depending on where you sit in the cycle it appears that sitting president actually did something for the economy.

What I am saying about the "plan" is not retarded. Who the fuck relies on all of America to go to his website to find out what he is for and against? That is what is retarded. I would love to see the percentage of poor and lower middle income families have computers and run out to Obama's website to seek the issues and his stance. Nope, neither one has a real plan for America.
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Post by djadonis206 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:11 pm

liveISlife wrote:I may not have read an economy book and I may be uneducated

I hope you're being sarcastic - a tiny bit of knowledge goes along way when it comes to how economies work

economics predicts and explains a lot of what you see. If you really care about what you see I suggest enrolling in an economics class or just reading an intro to economics book

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