HELP ME TO BUY AN INTERNAL HD

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:31 pm

I want to get a new HD for my macbook pro.
But the question is 200GB 7,200 rpm or 250GB 5,400 rpm?
Wich one sould i buy?

guly · Post by **guly** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:43 pm

at first i thought you need some donation! gh

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:44 pm

go with 7200rpms is always what i've heard.

As far as space is concerned you can always buy a not so fast but giant one for all the files you're not using in your current set. (like your personal stuff: pics, movies, etc)

Look at it like this maybe: Play a Live set that loads fast and doesn't glitch, or have access to hundreds of Live sets that glitch and barely play back. That's the tradeoff in the most extreme as far as i know

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:02 pm

guly wrote:at first i thought you need some donation! gh

Will be also nice if you have some Euros for me (-:

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:06 pm

Jekblad wrote:go with 7200rpms is always what i've heard.

As far as space is concerned you can always buy a not so fast but giant one for all the files you're not using in your current set. (like your personal stuff: pics, movies, etc)

Look at it like this maybe: Play a Live set that loads fast and doesn't glitch, or have access to hundreds of Live sets that glitch and barely play back. That's the tradeoff in the most extreme as far as i know

Thanks.
200GB i think is big enough.
I was today at a shop to get some infos about this.
They told me 200EURO all together.(With Work time)Is it good?or is it too expensive?

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:37 pm

i changed the harddrive in my macbook with little trouble

see if there's a utube video for changins HD in macbook pro

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:44 pm

Jekblad wrote:i changed the harddrive in my macbook with little trouble

see if there's a utube video for changins HD in macbook pro

Maybe i can doit by my self but,how can i copy(Trasfer) all the files from the drive that i have now in to the new one?(Files,programs.................)This is my problem

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:14 pm

two options,

1.) do you have another drive you can copy the data to?

2.) get an enclosure and use the drive as an external.

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:28 am

doc holiday wrote:two options,

1.) do you have another drive you can copy the data to?

2.) get an enclosure and use the drive as an external.

Yes i do have a second drive.I have also a free programm (Carbon Copy Cloner)to make backups.
http://www.bombich.com/

Is this programm ok?or sould i get any other?
Cloud you please tell me after i place the new drive in,what to do next?
Thanks.

jonny72 · Post by **jonny72** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:03 am

When I upgraded the drive in my MacBook I did a new install of Leopard, then used the Migration Assistant to move all my apps and data over (I had the old drive mounted in an external enclosure).

I was surprised at how well the Migration Assistant worked, I don't think I had to do anything myself. I've kept the old drive just in case though.

Choosing between 5400 and 7200 is tricky. Personally I reckon the performance difference isn't enough to justify the smaller capacities and higher prices of the 7200 drives. I've got a 320Gb 5400 drive in my MacBook and its fine.

If you're streaming large amounts of data (eg samples) from your hard drive then it would make more of a difference, but not as much as you might think.

koneko · Post by **koneko** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:41 am

i have a 7200/200GB seagate , upgraded from a 7200/100GB hitachi -- both are great. i personally feel a significance ramp in performance with 7200 over 5400. feels and is generally snappier. i havent ever worked with ableton on a 5400, so can not witness

gavscope · Post by **gavscope** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:18 am

Fujitsu, Seagate and Toshiba are literally just about to put out 320gb 2.5" 7200rpm hard drives- should be any day.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:52 am

It really depends what you are doing, VAKIS.
generally speaking, the performance gains in 7200rpm over 5400rpm happen more with write operations than read operations. (It varies from drive to drive, so it truley is a broad generalization, your mileage my vary) So, if you're doing some multi-track recording, a 7200rpm would be a better choice.

But if you're just streaming samples from the disk, i'd go with the capacity gains of a 250GB or 320GB 5400rpm drive. And remember if its too strained with Live, and you aren't able to perform playback at your chosen latency without glitches, you can always load samples into RAM to take some of the stress off the drive that way.

PEAVLEY · Post by **PEAVLEY** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:49 am

I haven't seen anyone mention cache.If you've got a lot of samples,you want to get a large cache rating,as your streaming samples off the hard drive,so the larger the cache the faster the samples stream,meaning more polyphony,less glitching.7200 rpm 32 cache if you can get it for a mac,is what I'd go with.

Dr. Zoiberg · Post by **Dr. Zoiberg** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:12 pm

5400rpm drives can be faster than 7200rpm ones; check this test on barefeats.

CONCLUSIONS
These latest test results reveal that,
a) The 7200rpm drives are the fastest when empty...

b)... but if you have 74GB of data on each of the drives, the 4200rpm drive was actually faster. That's because 74GB of data puts the 7200rpm drive at 80% capacity while the 200GB 4200rpm drive is only at 40% capacity. (See "74G Mark" graphs above.)

When we compared a 5400rpm 160GB drive with 148GB of data with the read/write speed of the 4200rpm 200GB drive with 148GB of data, the 4200rpm drive is running 23% faster at that point. So as the amount of data increases, the advantage of the larger capacity 4200rpm drive grows. However, at that point, the transfer speed of the 4200rpm drive has dropped from 37MB/s to 27MB/s. So if you need to maintain a certain transfer speed , you might consider two 100GB 7200rpm drives in a striped array. (See "148G Mark" graphs below under STORAGE EXPANSION.)

HELP ME TO BUY AN INTERNAL HD

HELP ME TO BUY AN INTERNAL HD

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