Why is Reason's sequencer terrible?

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Post by aisling » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:53 pm

ash1 wrote:reason is a fantastic sequencer once vst support is added then it will be the best music app on the market
I was under the impression this will never happen to reason. I thought the product philosophy is to keep it closed for efficiency and low cpu impact. But yeah, I imagine the day using my tc powercore and such in reason....will be a great day!
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Post by landrvr1 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:56 pm

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Post by chris ott » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:43 pm

Thanks for the tips.

For the people that took it personally, it is too bad you took it personally.

Making ridiculous statements like:

"You shouldn't dis a software on another vendors site." is absurd.


Like I said, I like reason's effects and synths but the sequencer is counter intuitive. I think this is the perfect place for a Rewire discussion.

P.S. It's more valuable if a company can read why people are having difficulty with it than just have fan-boys pump up the banter

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Re: Why is Reason's sequencer terrible?

Post by pilgrimomega » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:24 pm

chris ott wrote:Ok so I need to get some frustration out......

So I've been a pure ableton freq for years and I finally decided to incorporate reason into my sets. I had used 3.0 to toy around but I sat down with 4.0 to get serious. Maybe there's something I'm missing but......

1. Why is the program layed out vertically?
It's my biggest problem, it's so irriatating to have to constantly scroll up and down while holding down the mouse just to plug a damn synth in.

2. Why is the sequencer 1/10 of Abletons. Their sequencer behaves like a piece of freeware I wouldn't touch if my mom coded it. It is the most unmusical unintuitive piece of junk. It takes me 20 minutes to write a 4 bar drum part.

3. Why does it drop to the task bar when I'm using Rewire?
For instance I am jamming out with "Maelstrom" and I have my percussion going in Ableton, I want to press record on a clip and record the loop into the Ableton channel............ guess what?...... Reason drops to the task bar so my filter sweep can only be recorded two bars into the loop at the earliest.

Reason does have some lush effects and great quantize options that Ableton should adopt ... hint...hint( 8 and 16 bar swing aren't cutting it) but on the whole I would expect reason to be a free software that came with Computer Music Magazine.

Perhaps they could ask for $45 a copy.

Maybe I got it all wrong, maybe there is a pro user out there that knows a shortcut that will make it full-screen and cut all the unnecessary graphics and wire routing out but if not...... just like their crappy website, this is like the McDonald's of music software.....

Very popular and not that good.
Everything you said here indicates you actually don't know how to use Reason.

So sad.
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Post by Kenfen » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:21 am

I disagree with you, bro. I think the R4 sequencer is easy to use. The vertical rack does take some getting used to, but I think you can solve that by changing the display on your machine.

I think that the ReGroove function is awesome and the New Dub button is awesome and it's a nice neat package that will run on just about anything. And I also like that it finally has a count-in...LOL Oh well, 4 versions to add a count-in....

For me, I couldn't see using the sequencer until R4 came along, but now, it's definately in the arsenal to stay.


Kind Regards, Ken

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