Any Way To Get Around the 128 Para. Automation Limitation?

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Timur
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Post by Timur » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:37 am

Like mentioned in another thread before, using NI Kore can make this work.

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Post by Machinesworking » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:56 pm

Timur wrote:Like mentioned in another thread before, using NI Kore can make this work.
Pretty sure somebody mentioned it in this thread? :?

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Post by Grappadura » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:56 pm

U can use usine too, theres a free version. I´m working on the same, bro, and I´m not finding out how to scan my plugs by Usine. Trying to get on their forum and cant register getting a antispam message evry time, grrr. Is there maybe someone who can help me ot on this?

Need good tutorials, I want to eat a manual.

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Post by Timur » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:25 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
Timur wrote:Like mentioned in another thread before, using NI Kore can make this work.
Pretty sure somebody mentioned it in this thread? :?
Erm, oops, sorry...

Like mentioned in this thread before (TM Machinesworking ;)), using NI Kore can make this work. :D

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Post by Clearscreen » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:58 am

Grappadura wrote:U can use usine too, theres a free version. I´m working on the same, bro, and I´m not finding out how to scan my plugs by Usine. Trying to get on their forum and cant register getting a antispam message evry time, grrr. Is there maybe someone who can help me ot on this?

Need good tutorials, I want to eat a manual.
erm... the manual is on the download page isn't it? (http://www.sensomusic.com/download/). either way, hit CTRL+F5, then on the interface tab set your vst folder where it says "vst ll", then click scan vst. hope it helps..
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Post by Grappadura » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:07 am

erm... thx

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Re: Any Way To Get Around the 128 Para. Automation Limitatio

Post by ze2be » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:10 am

Olga wrote:
Naive Teen Idol wrote:I just bought a Remote SL 25 -- and I really like it, but am for the first time bummed about Live's 128 parameter automation limit.

Has anyone done a workaround for their plugs that DO have more than 128? I was wondering if anyone has resorted to using two controllers -- one a Novation w/ Automapping and another straight up MIDI controller for the parameters beyond 128. For instance, I figure, I could use a Novation control map to control the main parameters of, say, my CS-80V, but my UC-33e to control the ring modulators...



The most idiotic constant inane thing asked for on this forum is beyond 128. Seriously stupid and insane. Somehow Depeche Mode and NIN were able to pull off some of the best music ever made with next to no control or tops 16 channels of shit and you've got all these prima donnas asking for 500 channels of controls on vsti's & controllers.


Beyond laughable.
Primadonnas!?! Ha Ha! Thats a funny one, schools for fools!!

Were just in an early stage of electronic music perfomence. For me its essential, and to most of my computer musician friends: Full control of all parameters! Its not just the impro jazz folks, its bill and bob too.

However I would have thought that you would know how to use midi control? ;-) Topic starter: If you are concerned about the 128 parameter limit: Forget vst automation, use midi control instead! Know your tools! Each vst might have different midi automation learn systems. So id recommend using lesser vst tools!!

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Post by rbmonosylabik » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:19 am

I just realized Sonicbirth lets you wrap third party Audio Units inside it. Haven't tried it, but it could be a good solution to all our problems for the time being.

http://sonicbirth.sourceforge.net/
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