I've got friends with 2....what a fuckin mission.b0unce wrote:If at first you don't succeed... adopt a chernobyl baby.
ever get the feeling that
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Machinesworking
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Enjoy the process
I know two guys who made music from age 14-32. One of those two decided to just focus on his profession which has nothing to do with music. He is a father, has an important role in his company and seems to do financially very well.
But he also decided to quit to make music. He was a very talented and creative guitarist but it seems he became a lifeless workerbee.
The other of those two tried to quit but fortunately didn´t make it. Because he has something to tell, something must need to be expressed otherwise he would feel bad.
He refused to do music again but now we both play in a hc-band and it feels like we are around 18 or something.
The problem is, it feels like waiting in the rehearsal space for me because his skills on bass have decreased over the years. Even a little more complex (but only a little more complex) punkrock songs show him his limits. We´ve got a drummer who is a neuro-science professor, we have a lazy guitar player, who is just too self-confident and doesn´t see the need to improve on his playing.
It is my part to play "musical director", because I program the drumbeats for our real drummer, so we don´t need to explain them with words. I can play every part on both of the guitars, the basspart and sometimes I even need to sing, while I´m playing one of the three instruments because our leadsinger has to do a nightshift.
And this band is just pure hobby for me. I like to meet friends, it´s not about the music at all and that´s why it works so well.
What does it tell me? I obviously improved my musical skills but at the end of the month I can´t buy something to eat. YOU need to find YOUR OWN formula of how to manage your musical career. Don´t try to compare yourself to others, it will lead into frustration
Try to get a rather objective view on your talent. You can build up your analytical hearing for example. It is something you can practice.
In times where inspiration is not right around the corner use your brain, not your heart. Try to learn a new synthesizer-method, read forum posts, try to lay out some effect chains. I sometimes have these days too, but I see it as my profession, so I feel an obligation to improve my skills.
If you think of it as a slow journey that you just have to go along with then everything will be fine. Sometimes I also think my songs are pure bullshit, but I then take a break and try to do something else. The hardest part is to stay relaxed and to give things a rest, before you tackle them again.
And the most important thing of all. If you´re able to see you´re not as good as you want to be, you have to stick with it. For this fact alone you should keep on doing music. See it as a one-man demonstration against all these "superartists" who think they got truckloads of talent and didn´t recognize that they are the one who should stop to make music. But there are also some guys who had the luck to become a good drummer when they are nine or ten. If your parents are both accountants chances are pretty low you would be introduced to play an instrument at all. It´s not your fault, you have to accept it. If you are willing enough to improve your skills everything is fine. And you seem to hear your flaws so it there is a good chance you will improve your talent.
Good luck. Enjoy the process.
der Ivo
But he also decided to quit to make music. He was a very talented and creative guitarist but it seems he became a lifeless workerbee.
The other of those two tried to quit but fortunately didn´t make it. Because he has something to tell, something must need to be expressed otherwise he would feel bad.
He refused to do music again but now we both play in a hc-band and it feels like we are around 18 or something.
The problem is, it feels like waiting in the rehearsal space for me because his skills on bass have decreased over the years. Even a little more complex (but only a little more complex) punkrock songs show him his limits. We´ve got a drummer who is a neuro-science professor, we have a lazy guitar player, who is just too self-confident and doesn´t see the need to improve on his playing.
It is my part to play "musical director", because I program the drumbeats for our real drummer, so we don´t need to explain them with words. I can play every part on both of the guitars, the basspart and sometimes I even need to sing, while I´m playing one of the three instruments because our leadsinger has to do a nightshift.
And this band is just pure hobby for me. I like to meet friends, it´s not about the music at all and that´s why it works so well.
What does it tell me? I obviously improved my musical skills but at the end of the month I can´t buy something to eat. YOU need to find YOUR OWN formula of how to manage your musical career. Don´t try to compare yourself to others, it will lead into frustration
Try to get a rather objective view on your talent. You can build up your analytical hearing for example. It is something you can practice.
In times where inspiration is not right around the corner use your brain, not your heart. Try to learn a new synthesizer-method, read forum posts, try to lay out some effect chains. I sometimes have these days too, but I see it as my profession, so I feel an obligation to improve my skills.
If you think of it as a slow journey that you just have to go along with then everything will be fine. Sometimes I also think my songs are pure bullshit, but I then take a break and try to do something else. The hardest part is to stay relaxed and to give things a rest, before you tackle them again.
And the most important thing of all. If you´re able to see you´re not as good as you want to be, you have to stick with it. For this fact alone you should keep on doing music. See it as a one-man demonstration against all these "superartists" who think they got truckloads of talent and didn´t recognize that they are the one who should stop to make music. But there are also some guys who had the luck to become a good drummer when they are nine or ten. If your parents are both accountants chances are pretty low you would be introduced to play an instrument at all. It´s not your fault, you have to accept it. If you are willing enough to improve your skills everything is fine. And you seem to hear your flaws so it there is a good chance you will improve your talent.
Good luck. Enjoy the process.
der Ivo
Throw some 'unfinished' mixes up and get some fresh perspectives from other people on this forum.Meef Chaloin wrote:yeah im sure i wont actually give up but just spent ages trying to get an album together, most of the songs were already written but I went back to remix them now that I have some Adams, then did some gentle 'mastering' and it sounds shite (not cos of the mastering, just the mixes in general). Feel like im getting progressively worse. I thought some new monitors would do me good but my mixes sound wank. Just at the point where im sick of hearing the songs but they're still not right, its killing any passion stone dead
Get somebody else to master your stuff, when you feel your own mix is ok.
Maybe you need a rest from these tracks and need to create new ones, then go back.
Maybe they are crap and your new ones will be better.
Good luck.
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I read this book called The Remixers Bible. It seems to do the trick every time with a little weed.
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Idonotlikebroccoli
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Re: ever get the feeling that
No I don't. I'm having way too much fun doing this.Meef Chaloin wrote:ever get the feeling that you're just completely shit at music & that maybe the best thing to do is throw your computer out of a window/down the stairs and give up forever?
Sure, I get doubts, but mostly when I think too much.