Add silence to end of clip (make it longer)

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Add silence to end of clip (make it longer)

Post by Soma » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:20 pm

I recorded a clip that is 10 bars long but I want it to loop every 16 bars. How do I add 6 bars to it?
I know I could record silence and consolidate in the arrangement window but is there a faster way?

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Post by laird » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:39 pm

You got it.

You could also use follow actions to make a 16-bar-long loop, but this requires two scenes, not one.

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Post by Soma » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:59 pm

Isn't there a way to do it without leaving the clip editor?

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Post by laird » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:30 pm

No. the way the manual describes is the way you posted up top.

you could use Warp Markers if you have any silence at the end of your audio file.

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Re: Add silence to end of clip (make it longer)

Post by misteron » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:53 pm

Soma wrote:I could record silence and consolidate in the arrangement window
As was said this is the way, but u don't need to record silence.
Just highlight the clip's 10 bars of timline plus another 6 after that and hit consolidate.
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Post by longjohns » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:17 am

laird wrote:You could also use follow actions to make a 16-bar-long loop, but this requires two scenes, not one.
doesn't make sense. there's a handy follow action called 'play again' ;)

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Post by longjohns » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:24 am

something like this could be done with an unlinked clip volume envelope, but I'm having a hard time seeing how with this 10 bar/16 bar scenario.

that's because if the clip is looped, it needs to have the start at the beginning and the sample presumably lasts through bar 10...

it would be very easy to make longer clips in powers of 2..

i.e. this 10 bar sample can be easily made to play at 20 bar intervals, by looping it, unlinking the clip envelopes, and silencing bars 11-20 of the clip volume envelope. (envelope looped)

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Post by misteron » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:55 am

good thinkin longkohns.
yea if u really don't want to leave the clip editor u could make cook something up with that suggestion and maybe a clip start position envelope.
Seems like unnecessary hassle tho.
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Post by laird » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:24 pm

longjohns wrote:
laird wrote:You could also use follow actions to make a 16-bar-long loop, but this requires two scenes, not one.
doesn't make sense. there's a handy follow action called 'play again' ;)
10 bar loop, follow action = play next clip
next clip = silent, set to 6 bars in length, follow action = play first

viola, a 16 bar clip with 10 bars of audio, without having to leave the session view, correct?

I can't see why it would make sense to do it this way, though.

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Post by laird » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:31 pm

with Warp markers:

younormally start with 1 and end on 11.
If you start dragging markers to the left, you could start on 1 and end on bar 17.

If you had a little bit of silence recorded at the end of your 10 measures already, you might be able to time-stretch that out to 6 bars in length... so that you get a 16 bar loop but the first 10 bars play at normal speed

Or, you could try to time-stretch the last quarter-note out to be 6 bars long.
Here, Longjohn's mention of the volume envelope comes in handy, you might not like the sound of it.


There is a limit to how close Live can cram Warp Markers, though. I sue this quick-n-dirty method from time to time, but not to double the length of my loop time.

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Post by longjohns » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:12 am

laird wrote:
longjohns wrote:
laird wrote:You could also use follow actions to make a 16-bar-long loop, but this requires two scenes, not one.
doesn't make sense. there's a handy follow action called 'play again' ;)
10 bar loop, follow action = play next clip
next clip = silent, set to 6 bars in length, follow action = play first

viola, a 16 bar clip with 10 bars of audio, without having to leave the session view, correct?

I can't see why it would make sense to do it this way, though.
woah buddy ;)

how about just a 16 bar follow action, "play again"

no loop

simplicity....

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Post by misteron » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:06 am

longjohns wrote:how about just a 16 bar follow action, "play again"

no loop

simplicity....
d'oh!
that's so simple !
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Post by laird » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:27 pm

that works?!?

sweet!

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Post by grav » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:42 pm

longjohns wrote: woah buddy ;)

how about just a 16 bar follow action, "play again"

no loop

simplicity....
Very nice, works fine.

Before I learned this, I've been resampling the clip to another clip with correct length (which required another track), but this approach is much easier.

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