Is Moog Overrated?

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:37 pm

Tone Deft wrote: I'd comment more but I'm not much of a synth whore compared to you lot.
Ok then jack the thread...is a Les Paul overrated? How about a Strat? I'd say yes to both.

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Post by Poster » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:41 pm

Tone Deft wrote: still, if not Moog, then which synths are deserving of worship?
Dave Smith Evolver..
hands down, case closed, end thread..

conceptually and soundwise the best synth since years..

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:43 pm

Poster wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: still, if not Moog, then which synths are deserving of worship?
Dave Smith Evolver..
hands down, case closed, end thread..

conceptually and soundwise the best synth since years..
I love it when Poster gets opinionated. It's very manly.

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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:44 pm

nebulae wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:you mean a new track? I just posted one in the nonsense thread, but I don't think it's gonna blow you away or anything.
linkage please
www.myspace.com/fasterfaster

dial in the dilemma

it's just a live improv track I wrote last night.
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:47 pm

Johnisfaster wrote: www.myspace.com/fasterfaster

dial in the dilemma

it's just a live improv track I wrote last night.
brutha, I ain't blowin' smoke up yer skirt, but everything you touch is gold...love it! especially now that it's all live performance...beautiful! and very non-moogish :P

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Post by landrvr1 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:48 pm

Poster wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: still, if not Moog, then which synths are deserving of worship?
Dave Smith Evolver..
hands down, case closed, end thread..

conceptually and soundwise the best synth since years..

Wrong.

Dave Smith Prophet 08.

NOW the thread can end.

...

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:48 pm

nebulae wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: I'd comment more but I'm not much of a synth whore compared to you lot.
Ok then jack the thread...is a Les Paul overrated? How about a Strat? I'd say yes to both.
apples and oranges. and no, maybe.

guitars have souls, they were once trees that were living things, they twist and swell (don't go there neb, don't go there) with age. synths on the other hand are synths. older ones are quirky, need to be temperature compensated and all that but we're not talking those. IMO all Voyagers will sound identical, I feel comfortable in saying that I bet Moog as a company have very good testing and tuning abilities.

there's also the neck shape, scale length, fretboard shape, body resonance that if you like Strats and LPs then you buy one.

Satriani tells a story of a cheap ass Strat (Squier) that he found in a shop that is amazing. with all the variations in the mfg process once in a while the planets align and the cheap shit is awesome.

those two body styles are the most copied body style. get a knockoff and install your own parts, or go with a similar high end model like a Heritage Guitar instead of a Gibson or a Valley Arts instead of a Fender.
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Post by Poster » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:49 pm

nebulae wrote:
Poster wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: still, if not Moog, then which synths are deserving of worship?
Dave Smith Evolver..
hands down, case closed, end thread..

conceptually and soundwise the best synth since years..
I love it when Poster gets opinionated. It's very manly.
its the Italian blood you cacksucka..

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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:52 pm

nebulae wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote: www.myspace.com/fasterfaster

dial in the dilemma

it's just a live improv track I wrote last night.
brutha, I ain't blowin' smoke up yer skirt, but everything you touch is gold...love it! especially now that it's all live performance...beautiful! and very non-moogish :P
thanks man, one of the best compliments ever. if only I could put together a live set and stop being so god damned insecure.
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by Poster » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:53 pm

landrvr1 wrote:
Poster wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: still, if not Moog, then which synths are deserving of worship?
Dave Smith Evolver..
hands down, case closed, end thread..

conceptually and soundwise the best synth since years..

Wrong.

Dave Smith Prophet 08.

NOW the thread can end.

...
hehehe.. ok ok ok..
I never heard/touched one in real life, but I guess it must be great as well..
runs in the family no?

though if it ain't got sequencers that can mod ANY parameter, it cannot be a nicer synth..

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:56 pm

Poster wrote:
nebulae wrote:
I love it when Poster gets opinionated. It's very manly.
its the Italian blood you cacksucka..

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Italian? But, I thought you were Danish?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(how long can we repeat this conversation, brutha?)
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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:56 pm

Poster wrote:
landrvr1 wrote:
Poster wrote: Dave Smith Evolver..
hands down, case closed, end thread..

conceptually and soundwise the best synth since years..

Wrong.

Dave Smith Prophet 08.

NOW the thread can end.

...
hehehe.. ok ok ok..
I never heard/touched one in real life, but I guess it must be great as well..
runs in the family no?

though if it ain't got sequencers that can mod ANY parameter, it cannot be a nicer synth..
more features doesn't mean better :)
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:58 pm

Poster wrote:
landrvr1 wrote: Dave Smith Prophet 08.

NOW the thread can end.

...
hehehe.. ok ok ok..
I never heard/touched one in real life, but I guess it must be great as well..
runs in the family no?

though if it ain't got sequencers that can mod ANY parameter, it cannot be a nicer synth..
I played with it at Namm and wasn't too impressed, honestly. I suppose that's why I started this thread...the whole "real" analog subtractive sound is boring me...

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:00 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
nebulae wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: I'd comment more but I'm not much of a synth whore compared to you lot.
Ok then jack the thread...is a Les Paul overrated? How about a Strat? I'd say yes to both.
apples and oranges. and no, maybe.

guitars have souls, they were once trees that were living things, they twist and swell (don't go there neb, don't go there) with age. synths on the other hand are synths. older ones are quirky, need to be temperature compensated and all that but we're not talking those. IMO all Voyagers will sound identical, I feel comfortable in saying that I bet Moog as a company have very good testing and tuning abilities.

there's also the neck shape, scale length, fretboard shape, body resonance that if you like Strats and LPs then you buy one.

Satriani tells a story of a cheap ass Strat (Squier) that he found in a shop that is amazing. with all the variations in the mfg process once in a while the planets align and the cheap shit is awesome.

those two body styles are the most copied body style. get a knockoff and install your own parts, or go with a similar high end model like a Heritage Guitar instead of a Gibson or a Valley Arts instead of a Fender.
Yeah, well put. Guitars do change over time, and even where you play, and how you connect it through various amps and voltages and effects.

And I suppose the same endless variations are also entirely possible with a Moog...

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:01 pm

Can I please just say one thing about the twisting and swelling? just one? come on guys, you know I'm itchin' to....

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