levels seperate tracks, is there a basic rule

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krachtwerk
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Post by krachtwerk » Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:26 pm

timeline85 wrote:The first rule of fight club is....
i just thought that maybe there was one ring to rule them all...
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Post by Aequitas123 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:32 pm

timeline85 wrote:Don't listen to these guys they're obviously nubs.

Kick -24db
Snare -3db
Hihat -16db
bass +4db
Guitar -96db
keys -81db
vocals +24db

That should get you started, but make sure to put a "general purpose" compressor on each channel to get a reference point. I usually go with:

Threshold -48db
Ratio 24:1
Attach - 1ms or less
release - as long as possible (1200ms is best)

After that you can add regular compressors to get your pump n vibe.

Also make sure when using EQs to boost the good frequencies as much as possible, you only want to cut if you're using high or lowpass filters.

oh and if you can, you should bus your compressors whenever possible, and put your reverbs and delays as inserts.

Hahah, this post is awesome.

I'd love to hear a track with those settings... timeline...your Persian Funk track has too much guitar!

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Post by Euklid.fox » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:55 am

a basic rule can be: the more you add sounds the more you should get back and lower each of them to reach 0db without cliping when all your soundz play together, all the resr is subjective....

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Post by cram33 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:01 am

All I can say is that you need to practice and that over and over again. Your ears will grow into mixing as you proceed. When I compare my first mixes to my latest, its soooo fucking different!! My listening really changed after years of learning to mix...and i'm still learning! I looked up everything there is on the net about mixing, using compressors and eq and all other fx...read some books about mixing, and then you realize that there are definitly no rules, as every engineer tells you something different! There are some rules of thumb though but it's really best to mix, mix, mix and then again. There's NO shortcut IMO! Good luck and enjoy the trip! 8)
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Post by blaugruen7 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:28 am

timeline85 wrote:No really, I used those settings on my latest collaberation with Persian Funk

you can hear the awesome results here

I have a session with all those settings preloaded, I replaced my ableton shortcut with a shortcut to the session so that I have everything ready to go every time.
the prove is in the puding.

he holy gral of track settings is found. the world formel. every song works with it.

i love the last third of your song. such lyric melodies. i am ashamed to say i have had tears in my eyes. soooo moving.

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