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Tone Deft
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:15 pm

timeline85 wrote:I find that these faux debates about the merits of someone else's music don't really inform my own creativity at all, but rather just get my mind stuck in a pretty negative, unproductive state. Has anyone else noticed this?
this is like the 4th time I've written this line in this thread:
you can't argue musical taste.

we've moved on to context, who NIN was ripping off, which of his contemporaries were making better music at the time and Trent's attitude in general.

try reading other peoples' thoughts before slamming them with your own.
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Post by dcease » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:28 pm

timeline85 wrote:I find that these faux debates about the merits of someone else's music don't really inform my own creativity at all, but rather just get my mind stuck in a pretty negative, unproductive state. Has anyone else noticed this?
i find these threads to be good sources of laughter... rants are great, whether i agree or not.


OMFG!!! SOMEBODY HAS DIFFERENT TASTES THAN ME! SOMEBODY "BORROWED/STOLE" FROM SOMEONE---THEY SUX!!!

look, sure batman originally starred adam west, who is great as the mayor of quohog. this doesn't mean the other batmans sucked.

fuck, if you like it, then like it. if you don't, then don't. <shrugs shoulders>



btw, thanks for some of the links 8)

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Post by funknotik » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:57 am

Tone Deft wrote:kids... :roll:

consider this... when Trent released his first album, MW was a teenager soaking it all in, listening to Trent's contemporaries as a music fiend, as we all are music fiends. you're a 20 year old reading about history, he lived it. when Pretty Hate Machine was released you were shitting your diapers, sucking your momma's tit.

a year from now you'll look back at your 'bad ass' sophomore self and laugh. actually you probably are headed into your second year, you're just a freshman FFS.

for not going into a lot of detail you sure do go into a lot of detail.
if you don't play an instrument and you cannot speak the language of music. If you are musically illiterate, you cannot verbalize what reason you have for disliking a musician other than, it sounds "pop," or "you like it because it's edgy."
that's retarded and elitist.

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just talking shit man, nothing personal. the boss is out this week and fuck me if I'm not going to take advantage of that.
Lol that did sound elitist, I'm not trying to be dick just trying to make a point. I tried to emphasize it's not really about being in school or anything. Academic institutions are just a path towards information, it's just a good environment to learn you don't have to go to school to know anything about music. You wanna see some real elitist shit, we can argue about golden era/ underground hip hop vs todays bullshit, mainstream, watered down, bling bling, mierda rap. Also nice pic but I'm much more BRUOUUUTAL than that guy, also much bigger. Cookie monster scream (OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!)
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Post by dcease » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:08 am

lil wayne is illin. his drop is sick.

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Post by ThrowAway » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:42 am

[quote="Tone Deft"]

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I love new orleans.

man from reading the last few pages of this thread im glad I stayed out of it.

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Post by Machinesworking » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:47 am

funknotik wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:kids... :roll:

consider this... when Trent released his first album, MW was a teenager soaking it all in, listening to Trent's contemporaries as a music fiend, as we all are music fiends. you're a 20 year old reading about history, he lived it. when Pretty Hate Machine was released you were shitting your diapers, sucking your momma's tit.

a year from now you'll look back at your 'bad ass' sophomore self and laugh. actually you probably are headed into your second year, you're just a freshman FFS.

for not going into a lot of detail you sure do go into a lot of detail.
if you don't play an instrument and you cannot speak the language of music. If you are musically illiterate, you cannot verbalize what reason you have for disliking a musician other than, it sounds "pop," or "you like it because it's edgy."
that's retarded and elitist.

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just talking shit man, nothing personal. the boss is out this week and fuck me if I'm not going to take advantage of that.
Lol that did sound elitist, I'm not trying to be dick just trying to make a point. I tried to emphasize it's not really about being in school or anything.

Look, I've been into industrial music since before you were born, I played in industrial bands since 1983. You make all these statements about schooling, but you don't know anything at all about industrial music or culture. FYI even Trent admitted that he was industrial light compared to groups around at the time. Your whole argument has been on thin ice. Like I said I have no problem with you liking less challenging forms of industrial like NIN, but to argue that NIN are at all the most heavy/challenging industrial group is silly.
Tone Deft wrote: MW - I'd like to read some recommendations of bands circa the Pretty Hate Machine era that pwn NIN, just for old time's sake, that was my scene back in the day.
Crap, I'm kinda tired, but let's see? First off Horse Rotorvator by Coil, like landrabies said, Foetus- Nail in particular, any Godflesh record, but specifically Slavestate for the industrial vibe, Pitchshifter, but this is important! BEFORE the pitchsifter.com album, which absolutely blows, The Swans- Time is Money Bastard EP ( I can pretty much guarantee you'll like this one), Front 242......
and don't get me wrong, I thought Pretty Hate Machine was OK, but Coil were miles above him IMO, but too gay for mainstream, and Ministry just destroyed NIN at the time.
I didn't care for the Downward Spiral, never liked it that much, though it was too mopey, like a Cure record. Too goth pop, and not industrial enough IMO. Trents vocals kill the whole thing for me to be honest.

Quick quiz! How many songs does Trent use the line "that I can never have" in? It's gotta be a fuck ton! :lol:

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Post by nate_D » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:56 am

Mesmer wrote:Dudez,

how can you be a-hatin' the guy who got the first video game placement I ever knew?? ... like in nothing other than Doom, in the second level, one could go for a pedestal with a chain saw, and beside it there was a cube, and in the cube you could clearly read the mark of the most bloody-and-badass band there ever was. And it read: NIN, and I think they were nails, for a nailgun one could find somewhere else.
hold up. i'm pretty sure you're thinking of quake. doom didn't have a nail gun. actually, id software got trent reznor to do the sound effects/music for the game. i remember really enjoying all the ambience and creepy sounding shit going on.

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as far as all this who's penis is bigger stuff you guys are going on about, pfftt... :roll:
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Post by b0unce » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:12 am

nate_D wrote:
Mesmer wrote:Dudez,

how can you be a-hatin' the guy who got the first video game placement I ever knew?? ... like in nothing other than Doom, in the second level, one could go for a pedestal with a chain saw, and beside it there was a cube, and in the cube you could clearly read the mark of the most bloody-and-badass band there ever was. And it read: NIN, and I think they were nails, for a nailgun one could find somewhere else.
hold up. i'm pretty sure you're thinking of quake. doom didn't have a nail gun. actually, id software got trent reznor to do the sound effects/music for the game. i remember really enjoying all the ambience and creepy sounding shit going on.

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as far as all this who's penis is bigger stuff you guys are going on about, pfftt... :roll:
both you guys should fucking die horribly.

Ya, it was quake. Ya, NIN did the soundtrack.
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Post by b0unce » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:15 am

NIN rule.
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Post by friend_kami » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:01 pm

really. these forums are like dallas on steriods.

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Post by Tone Deft » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:03 pm

kami:
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In my life
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At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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Post by friend_kami » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:02 am

Tone Deft wrote:kami:
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you sure thats not you?
im pretty sure it is.

nice try though.

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