I start one, love it, stick loadsa energy into it, get it sounding half decent, make a nice breakdown, lots of envelopes, effects and things happening.
I then get bored of it, realize that it don't sound to good after all, listen to something else by someone else that sounds a million times better, get frustrated, get disheartened, have a break, go back, still sounds shit and then stay away for a few days.
So I start something else, love it......
Why can I never finish a track?
Why can I never finish a track?
Casio keyboard with 48k ZX Spectrum, a couple of tambourines and a triangle.
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Warminstrel
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Its like fishing;
If everytime you went fishing you caught a fish, you'd get bored.
Its the un-known that keeps you coming back for more.
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Apparently Frank Zappa died leaving millions of half finished tunes in his underground cellar.
If he's had Live it would probably have been billions.
If everytime you went fishing you caught a fish, you'd get bored.
Its the un-known that keeps you coming back for more.
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Apparently Frank Zappa died leaving millions of half finished tunes in his underground cellar.
If he's had Live it would probably have been billions.
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The Phat Conductor
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you should maybe set up a phone session with me.
i have a system that results in a finished tune every two days when i'm not on tour.
there are a few simple things that make it all come together before you get sick of the tunes.
some of the mainstays are:
-get up EARLY, take the phone off the hook, and work ALL DAY SOBER. smoke in the evening if you must, but not during the main bits, it slows everything down and results in mindless tweaking...
-write in a little book every morning, it keeps your mind moving forwards
-produce with a friend, things go faster when you don't want to waste someone else's time.
-write transitions, not parts... there are a few simple arrangement rules that will keep things moving.
-don't get anal about the mixing until later. you can always mix a finished tune at a later date without getting bored. stick to writing when you're writing.
-make loads of racks! they speed things up exponentially at time goes on. they're like lego!
-if something is not yielding results in 5 minutes, move on to something else. pick off the easy problems first, they may make the harder problems irrelevant.
anyway, if you want the nitty gritty, send me an email and we can work it out. you probably have some idiosyncratic problems that need addressing as well.
i have a system that results in a finished tune every two days when i'm not on tour.
there are a few simple things that make it all come together before you get sick of the tunes.
some of the mainstays are:
-get up EARLY, take the phone off the hook, and work ALL DAY SOBER. smoke in the evening if you must, but not during the main bits, it slows everything down and results in mindless tweaking...
-write in a little book every morning, it keeps your mind moving forwards
-produce with a friend, things go faster when you don't want to waste someone else's time.
-write transitions, not parts... there are a few simple arrangement rules that will keep things moving.
-don't get anal about the mixing until later. you can always mix a finished tune at a later date without getting bored. stick to writing when you're writing.
-make loads of racks! they speed things up exponentially at time goes on. they're like lego!
-if something is not yielding results in 5 minutes, move on to something else. pick off the easy problems first, they may make the harder problems irrelevant.
anyway, if you want the nitty gritty, send me an email and we can work it out. you probably have some idiosyncratic problems that need addressing as well.
ill gates aka the phat conductor
producer, performer + ableton/music teacher
http://www.illgates.com
producer, performer + ableton/music teacher
http://www.illgates.com
Great advice man... I think I'll take some !The Phat Conductor wrote:you should maybe set up a phone session with me.
i have a system that results in a finished tune every two days when i'm not on tour.
there are a few simple things that make it all come together before you get sick of the tunes.
some of the mainstays are:
-get up EARLY, take the phone off the hook, and work ALL DAY SOBER. smoke in the evening if you must, but not during the main bits, it slows everything down and results in mindless tweaking...
-write in a little book every morning, it keeps your mind moving forwards
-produce with a friend, things go faster when you don't want to waste someone else's time.
-write transitions, not parts... there are a few simple arrangement rules that will keep things moving.
-don't get anal about the mixing until later. you can always mix a finished tune at a later date without getting bored. stick to writing when you're writing.
-make loads of racks! they speed things up exponentially at time goes on. they're like lego!
-if something is not yielding results in 5 minutes, move on to something else. pick off the easy problems first, they may make the harder problems irrelevant.
anyway, if you want the nitty gritty, send me an email and we can work it out. you probably have some idiosyncratic problems that need addressing as well.
...as soon as I get some free time... DAMN IT !!!
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Action Jackson
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I have come to the conclusion that I really need a second set of ears and a second opinion, an experienced one. I.e. a collaborator to work with and give feedback and new ideas. But then again, art usually is 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration. You can do it the hard way, all by yourself, or the easier way, with some help of a friend.
Thanks Phat, those were some really good points. I have the same issues so this hit home.
http://www.soundcloud.com/dreznicek
MacBook M1 Pro Max, 64Gig RAM, 4TB internal SSD, Live 11, Push1/2/3, Reason, VST O'Plenty
MacBook M1 Pro Max, 64Gig RAM, 4TB internal SSD, Live 11, Push1/2/3, Reason, VST O'Plenty
Thanks for that.The Phat Conductor wrote: -write in a little book every morning, it keeps your mind moving forwards
-produce with a friend, things go faster when you don't want to waste someone else's time.
-write transitions, not parts... there are a few simple arrangement rules that will keep things moving.
Couple o' questions though:
What do you write in your book every morning?
What do you mean by writing transitions and not parts?
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Re: Why can I never finish a track?
listen to your favourite artists best song for 6 hours a day for 2 days non stop, then see how much you love it. It will annoy the fuck out of you and it will seem stupidly simple and shit. Its one of the plagues of electronic music that we have to listen to our tracks OVER AND OVER again and can never get a song down as quick as say a singer songwriter. Just work through it. Just plough through and then leave it in a box for a few weeks to mature. come back and feel the warmth and glee of your song and maybe add some sparkle motion here and there.eggnchips wrote:I start one, love it, stick loadsa energy into it, get it sounding half decent, make a nice breakdown, lots of envelopes, effects and things happening.
I then get bored of it, realize that it don't sound to good after all, listen to something else by someone else that sounds a million times better, get frustrated, get disheartened, have a break, go back, still sounds shit and then stay away for a few days.
So I start something else, love it......
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Pitch Black
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Pitch Black
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Thanks! Not like I'm any great poster-boy for this though... I try to subscribe to it, but I'm a white, male, half-Swedish, right-handed, Virgo, keyboard player - you don't get much more anal than that!!3dot... wrote:another one for the books....Pitch Black wrote:KILL PERFECTIONISM BEFORE IT KILLS YOU!!!!
