Crop Midi Sequences!

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Crop Midi Sequences!

Post by solovox » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:52 am

'Nuff said.
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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:20 pm

You can consolidate them.

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Re: Crop Midi Sequences!

Post by jlgrimes » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:53 pm

solovox wrote:'Nuff said.
Are you refferring to Session View clips or Arrange View clips?

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Post by solovox » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:57 pm

I am referring to session view clips...unless I've missed something there is no quick way to crop the 'fat' from a midi sequence. Anyone?
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Post by jlgrimes » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:33 pm

solovox wrote:I am referring to session view clips...unless I've missed something there is no quick way to crop the 'fat' from a midi sequence. Anyone?
I think I have a similar issue than you but we work a little different but I think this issue deals with the same general topic:

Lack of certain control on session view clips.


There are a few alternatives however:

1. You can loop the midi clip in realtime by as you are recording midi and press enter the sequence will loop to the next current quantization setting.

2. You can predefine the length of clips in a template to barlengths you typically work in. I do this because I find 1 bar loops limiting.


My gripe is that there is no way to set new midi clip defaults for some things such as loop length, swing settings. Also you only have a limited choice of things you can do to a multiselection of clips. For example you cannot.

Set Loop lengths, Set start marker times.

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Post by solovox » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:15 pm

Yep...I'm aware of these 'workarounds,' but it seems to me the ability to quickly crop a midi sequence is a de facto feature in most DAWs...Live let's you do it with Audio Clips...why not MIDI?

There are times when I am recording a midi part and I don't 'nail it' until the 30th measure or whatever...I know I can bracket it, but then I'm copying and pasting that same 30-measure clip all over my session until I manually move the 'good part' to the '1' and erase all the other notes...yuck.
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Post by rydan » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:35 am

Copy clip to arrange view, shorten, consolidate, move back. That's what I do. If you use tab while having the clip selected with mouse button down, the drag&drop is pretty quick.

Or, another thing I often do, set up the "backing" in session view, record in arrange view, trim, and then drag the clip to session view...
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Post by clipless » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:35 am

I think that wasn't implemented because MIDI information is not going to take your RAM or Hard drive reading resources away, it's not big deal to have the non-used notes in the MIDI clips.

But yes I also think it would be nice to crop them in the session.

+1

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Post by timbreland » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:51 pm

+1 for cropping MIDI clips in session view. Need it!

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Post by lectro » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:44 pm

+1 for cropping MIDI clips in session view. I Need it!

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Post by ReasonliveUSER » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:55 pm

1+ for cropping midi clips on session view tracks
I work with audio and all kinds of midi devices and I think its cool you can treat audio and midi tracks the same in some aspects. the more similar features the better
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Post by drb » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:44 am

It does seem insane that in version 7 of a product you still can't do some simple housekeeping to only retain only the MIDI you want to save.

I often play a part over and over till I get a few measures that I like. Then I want to delete the extra.

Simple!
Why don't we have it?

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Post by Tarekith » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:36 am

Do we bring up copy and paste of midi notes now, or wait a bit? :)

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Post by drb » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:00 am

Tarekith wrote:Do we bring up copy and paste of midi notes now, or wait a bit? :)
Obviously there is a workaround, but it's sloppy.

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Post by bensuthers » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:33 am

> I often play a part over and over till I get a few measures that I like. Then I want to > delete the extra.

> Simple!
> Why don't we have it?

can I ask exactly what the problem is with leaving the midi data there?

it's not hurting anybody.

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