for those who use external synths with ableton............

[abletoon]

this is my problem:

sometimes when i trigger a clip that has a midi note on the the first beat
ableton doesnt play it fully. all i get is a very small piece of it, like when you have the decay on an amplitute envelope turned right down.

ableton has to wait until the next loop cycle to trigger is correctly, which is really annoying.

does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers

[logic_user99]

Never had that problem, meself. Do your MIDI notes extend over the end of a clip? I've had issues with note-kill in Logic because of over-long MIDI notes.

[rob lee]

im having this problem with midi fellow toon user..my notes are hanging using sylenth but im still testing other vst's..
rob

[sweetjesus]

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[sweetjesus]

this is my problem:

sometimes when i trigger a clip that has a midi note on the the first beat
ableton doesnt play it fully. all i get is a very small piece of it, like when you have the decay on an amplitute envelope turned right down.

ableton has to wait until the next loop cycle to trigger is correctly, which is really annoying.

does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers

i have this problem a lot and been workin with ableton to see if theres any way to resolve it.

ive made a set which reproduces the bug on my computer but apparantly it doesnt reproduce on the abletons system..

what synth are u using?

i have this problem but i found it was only affecting my moog but not my jp8000..

[abletoon]

thanks for response,

i've tried making sure that there are no midi note are over-hanging, but i still have the same problem.

im using an access virus classic with an RME FF400 soundcard. it seems to only effect external hardware as my vsti's seem to respond fine.

[sweetjesus]

thanks for response,

i've tried making sure that there are no midi note are over-hanging, but i still have the same problem.

im using an access virus classic with an RME FF400 soundcard. it seems to only effect external hardware as my vsti's seem to respond fine.

can u try it with another synth to test with ?

[deva]

thanks for response,

i've tried making sure that there are no midi note are over-hanging, but i still have the same problem.

im using an access virus classic with an RME FF400 soundcard. it seems to only effect external hardware as my vsti's seem to respond fine.

have you tried moving the first midi note 1 tick?

I do remember some people having that trouble with vst's at some point too

[TrierMusic]

I have a similar problem, but I don't get a blip, I get no sound at all on the first note.

I think it's because Ableton records the MIDI note but somehow identifies it as starting before the downbeat (even if you started recording right on the downbeat). So the "note on" message gets muffled.

(similar to if you have a 4-bar midi note and you start in the middle of bar 2 - Ableton won't play it because it didn't get the 'note on' message for that note)

My solution is to go into the MIDI editor, click on the first note and hit the right arrow key so that the note begins exactly on the downbeat instead of .0005 ms before or whatever.

I guess another solution may be to record in session view and give yourself one extra "lead-in" measure before whatever you're recording begins...then your new clip will have a blank measure in front of where it will start, so that first note can come in a bit before the downbeat and will still sound.

[kaffein]

Mang, I still have this problem even with INTERNAL synths. Hell even simpler/impulse.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84859

[andydes]

Could this have anything to do with delay compensation? ie. if a track has delay compensation on, it will play slightly ahead to account for latency. This may cause it to miss the first note of a clip.

I could well be talking out of my arse here, I really don't know. Just a thought.

[kaffein]

I have that set to 0ms... I'll try playing with that.

[3dot...]

this is my problem:

sometimes when i trigger a clip that has a midi note on the the first beat
ableton doesnt play it fully. all i get is a very small piece of it, like when you have the decay on an amplitute envelope turned right down.

ableton has to wait until the next loop cycle to trigger is correctly, which is really annoying.

does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers

it is a known bug now for ages... ableton are taking their sweet time...

I'm about to round up a posse and go over there... you with me ?!

[Lux Libra]

i don't have this problem with the Nord Modular....
first note on 0.0.1 will be played normal - hardware as software

[landrvr1]

Same problem here on my Prophet 08. Often the first note will be missed altogether, and I have to give it 2 or 3 tries in order to capture. My timing is pretty good, and the quantize should pick up the fraction of a second slack but.....

And I don't know that this is a sync issue per se. I've had no sync problems whatsoever; after numerous tests. My MIDI setup is fairly straightforward and simple, however. If it were a sync issue, the timing for all the notes would be fucked. No, I think this is something different. A pure trigger/signal issue. Which I guess could be related to sync.

I've played with the latency (I'm using External Instrument, BTW), but that doesn't help at all. I'm getting virtually no latency between hitting the Prophet key and hearing the sound through Ableton.

I need to do a straight MIDI test where I'm not running through External Instrument. Is everyone using EI?

Oh, and no such problem on the softSynth side (with my old KeyStation). Which reminds me, I need to turn off my Prophet master control and just use it as a controller on a softSynth to eliminate the Prophet as the culprit.

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