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hoffman2000 wrote:I originally got sold to Ableton Live because it said "Sequencing Instrument" right there on the box.
Same here. There was something magic about the Live 3 box. The phrase "Sequencing Instrument" just stuck in my head and just made me so curious that I had to figure out what exactly it was. Software wise Live has just gotten better and better. Box wise Ableton has yet to outdo version 3.nice
Do you know if it is possible to split a HW controller (same channel, same CCs) with the 8 macros on different racks? (in different tracks)
Its easy with VSTs, using their midi learn functions (not in a rack) because you just arm a track, and its all focusing on that plug only.
Is there any similar abilities with Lives macro racks in any way..?
Max, Bomes, Automap...
The idea is to have zones on the midi keyboard, used to trigger midi clips, and also select the co responding VST, simply by using layered midi channels on the keyboard. When trigging the clips from zone 1 (vst synth1), the parameters midi learned from this synth will be available on the keyboards pots and sliders. Though using the different keys/notes you can arm different tracks. This is tested and works fine. The layered channel on the keyboard is the same as the one used for the pots and sliders. The second midi channel layer on the keyboard is used to trigger clips. Minus the arm function/vst controller layered channel, there is 15 channels left for different songs. The first preset on the keyboard is then ch1+2, then ch1+3, ch1+4 and so on. The vst synths changes their presets from the midi clips, using program change.
I use a scale on the keyboard for each zone split, to keep it tidy. A little help from Bome is used, but it is not crucial. Example: on a 4 octave keyboard; octave 1=drums, octave2=bass, octave3=lead, octave4=pads. etc.
I would love to do the same with racks and rack macros.
Do you know if it is possible to split a HW controller (same channel, same CCs) with the 8 macros on different racks? (in different tracks)
Its easy with VSTs, using their midi learn functions (not in a rack) because you just arm a track, and its all focusing on that plug only.
Is there any similar abilities with Lives macro racks in any way..?
Max, Bomes, Automap...
The idea is to have zones on the midi keyboard, used to trigger midi clips, and also select the co responding VST, simply by using layered midi channels on the keyboard. When trigging the clips from zone 1 (vst synth1), the parameters midi learned from this synth will be available on the keyboards pots and sliders. Though using the different keys/notes you can arm different tracks. This is tested and works fine. The layered channel on the keyboard is the same as the one used for the pots and sliders. The second midi channel layer on the keyboard is used to trigger clips. Minus the arm function/vst controller layered channel, there is 15 channels left for different songs. The first preset on the keyboard is then ch1+2, then ch1+3, ch1+4 and so on. The vst synths changes their presets from the midi clips, using program change.
I use a scale on the keyboard for each zone split, to keep it tidy. A little help from Bome is used, but it is not crucial. Example: on a 4 octave keyboard; octave 1=drums, octave2=bass, octave3=lead, octave4=pads. etc.
I would love to do the same with racks and rack macros.
Let me put it simpler:
Im using 8 Rack tracks, because 8 works out well with most midi controllers.
My BCR2000 has 32 pots and 16 buttons. And im happy with accessing the 8 macros, plus volume, pan, and a couple of sends on the track. x8 for each track thats 64 macros, and 32 mix parameters for each song..
I cant seem to fit it all on one midi channel, on any of the usual midi controllers! And I need the rest of the midi channels for the other songs in the project. So...maybe I need two BCR2000s!?!
Or maybe there is a smart way to do it.
The idea came from this reality:
When using VSTs on tracks, they can share the same midi channel AND parameters on a controller, just by jumping from track to track, the highlighted/armed one gets chosen.
Saves up a ton of space on the controller. (not by using abletons midi learn, but their own built in midi learn, and also probably with automap)
Im using 8 Rack tracks, because 8 works out well with most midi controllers.
My BCR2000 has 32 pots and 16 buttons. And im happy with accessing the 8 macros, plus volume, pan, and a couple of sends on the track. x8 for each track thats 64 macros, and 32 mix parameters for each song..
I cant seem to fit it all on one midi channel, on any of the usual midi controllers! And I need the rest of the midi channels for the other songs in the project. So...maybe I need two BCR2000s!?!
Or maybe there is a smart way to do it.
The idea came from this reality:
When using VSTs on tracks, they can share the same midi channel AND parameters on a controller, just by jumping from track to track, the highlighted/armed one gets chosen.
Saves up a ton of space on the controller. (not by using abletons midi learn, but their own built in midi learn, and also probably with automap)
Will it make any difference with Automap? Can you over ride Live?hoffman2k wrote:You gotta keep in mind that although Live supports a large amount of controllers, you can only use CC 0 on Ch 1, once.
Regardless of which controller you're using, Live will only listen to the messages and wont make a distinction between hardware controllers.
Theres also Bome, Mackie Emulation, and Max. I have zero experience with max. Ive actually purcased Bome's Midi translator, but its very cryptic to me.
With automap it might make a difference because its supposed to work with multiple controllers.ze2be wrote:Will it make any difference with Automap? Can you over ride Live?hoffman2k wrote:You gotta keep in mind that although Live supports a large amount of controllers, you can only use CC 0 on Ch 1, once.
Regardless of which controller you're using, Live will only listen to the messages and wont make a distinction between hardware controllers.
Theres also Bome, Mackie Emulation, and Max. I have zero experience with max. Ive actually purcased Bome's Midi translator, but its very cryptic to me.
Basically you'd need a button that allows you to select MIDI output ports instead of MIDI Channels. Using the same 8 knobs for all Racks would be possible like that.
I have to look into it then, thanks a lot!hoffman2k wrote: With automap it might make a difference because its supposed to work with multiple controllers.
Basically you'd need a button that allows you to select MIDI output ports instead of MIDI Channels. Using the same 8 knobs for all Racks would be possible like that.
BTW. Do you know the name or description of that in spesific midi terms?
I don't think it exists. It sounds like something that'll need to be built for this specific task.ze2be wrote:I have to look into it then, thanks a lot!hoffman2k wrote: With automap it might make a difference because its supposed to work with multiple controllers.
Basically you'd need a button that allows you to select MIDI output ports instead of MIDI Channels. Using the same 8 knobs for all Racks would be possible like that.
BTW. Do you know the name or description of that in spesific midi terms?