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I am voting for

Obama
46
58%
McCain
6
8%
That chick from the Transformers movie
28
35%
 
Total votes: 80

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Post by heavensdaw » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:34 pm

j2j wrote: No way, no how, can Bush bomb Iran without Congress and the Senates Approval, and that wont happen before November 4th.
Cool I feel better now....:roll:

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Post by Moody » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:16 pm

knotkranky wrote:Not voting is certainly no protest. Simply picking the best of the two for whatever reasons is respectable and has action in it and not voting simply hands it to McCain. Thanks a lot :wink:

Certainly not voting will not change a damn thing.


kids :roll:
I am guessing your kids rant was aimed towards myself. At no point did I say I would not vote. I simply stated it will not change a damn thing in this country and I certainly wish I was still a kid.
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Post by djadonis206 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:39 pm

Moody wrote:
knotkranky wrote:Not voting is certainly no protest. Simply picking the best of the two for whatever reasons is respectable and has action in it and not voting simply hands it to McCain. Thanks a lot :wink:

Certainly not voting will not change a damn thing.


kids :roll:
I am guessing your kids rant was aimed towards myself. At no point did I say I would not vote. I simply stated it will not change a damn thing in this country and I certainly wish I was still a kid.
it wont change a thing?

over 70% of blacks are born into a single mother household.

1/2 of all black high schoolers will drop out of school

1/2 of the prison population is black

Homicide is the #1 killer of black men between the ages of 18 and 29

In the black community there are no black fathers and those that are left are either dead or in jail

so...

voting for someone like Senator Barack Obama

For once little black kids in America will have someone else besides LaBron James or Kobe Bryant to look up to

For once little black kids will see how far a good education will take them

For once black men and women will see a strong black family together, that stays together


This not only benefits the black community but America as a whole

the more productive people that are in a society the more productive that society becomes

when we stop subtracting from the pool and adding to the pool we all benefit


so voting does matter - maybe not to you but to millions of other people it does

there's already been numerous articles and human interest news specials on what the election means to the black community
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Post by djadonis206 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:43 pm

Moody wrote:At no point did I say I would not vote. I simply stated it will not change a damn thing in this country

Voting wont change a thing?


- the last Democratic president we had excelled economically

for everyone - see my post below

I have no doubt Obama put many of the same, but fresher governmental policies in place

A recent Wall Street Journal article talks about how Globalization has widened the gap between rich and poor, mainly due to the governmental economic policies that are in place

including America

Maybe voting doesn't matter to you but again, to millions of other people it does

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=11242

djadonis206 wrote:


on an economic front

Real GDP grew every single year more than 2.5 % topping at 4.4% in 1999

while keeping inflation under 2.3% his whole entire 8 years

while unemployment was on the low side of the natural rate of unemployment (4% or less)

plus he ran a budget surplus the last couple years of his presidency

and tens of thousands of new jobs were created

prior to that Bush Senior had a recessionary year in 1991 when real GDP dipped to -0.2 and inflation got as high as 3.8% in 1989

the current Bush, inflation is rising and rising fast @ or above 5% currently

real GDP for the last qtr was 1.9% and that was distorted by the stimulus checks - the end of the 4th qtr of '07 we saw negative real GDP

unemployment is on the high side of the natural rate of unemployment upwards close to 6%

not to mention the war is costing us billions of dollars


so, economically Clinton has been the best thing for America in the last 20 years
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Post by mdk » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:51 pm

djadonis206 wrote:- the last Democratic president we had excelled economically for everyone in america
for the people round here it wasnt such a good time, economically.
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Post by Moody » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:02 pm

djadonis206 wrote:
Moody wrote:
knotkranky wrote:Not voting is certainly no protest. Simply picking the best of the two for whatever reasons is respectable and has action in it and not voting simply hands it to McCain. Thanks a lot :wink:

Certainly not voting will not change a damn thing.


kids :roll:
I am guessing your kids rant was aimed towards myself. At no point did I say I would not vote. I simply stated it will not change a damn thing in this country and I certainly wish I was still a kid.
it wont change a thing?

over 70% of blacks are born into a single mother household.

1/2 of all black high schoolers will drop out of school

1/2 of the prison population is black

Homicide is the #1 killer of black men between the ages of 18 and 29

In the black community there are no black fathers and those that are left are either dead or in jail

so...

voting for someone like Senator Barack Obama

For once little black kids in America will have someone else besides LaBron James or Kobe Bryant to look up to

For once little black kids will see how far a good education will take them

For once black men and women will see a strong black family together, that stays together


This not only benefits the black community but America as a whole

the more productive people that are in a society the more productive that society becomes

when we stop subtracting from the pool and adding to the pool we all benefit


so voting does matter - maybe not to you but to millions of other people it does

there's already been numerous articles and human interest news specials on what the election means to the black community
Hey Adonis, that all sounds great and I agree that it would have some influence on certain people but, at the moment I am a little apothetic about both of the canidates for the two major parties in this country. I don't think either one of these guys are going to have a huge impact on the current state of affairs. Just the mood I am in lately. It is nice to see some people with optimism about either of these guys but, my optimism for politicians has been long gone.
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Post by j2j » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:14 pm

I think Sen. Obama's message transcends race. Its been amazing for the black community. Its been amazing for America.

No doubt, all of us can stand a little taller. ALL OF US... can be a little prouder.


I was so skeptical. But it had nothing to do with his skin color. I was skeptical, cause...

well.....


Look what kind of ride we have all been taken on.

You know what I am saying?

Don't you think I was allowed to be skeptical?

Well I've heard the message LOUD and CLEAR.

And I am voting. And I am voting for Barack Obama.
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Post by j2j » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:17 pm

Moody wrote:. I don't think either one of these guys are going to have a huge impact on the current state of affairs. Just the mood I am in lately. It is nice to see some people with optimism about either of these guys but, my optimism for politicians has been long gone.

This is what I am saying bro. This is how cynical, jaded, and sad I have been as of late.

Your right. It won't just be Sen. Obama who changes. It will have to be for America to really want this too.

A man, a guy, a community organizer. has just proven that...

IF YOU THE AMERICAN PEOPLE STILL WANT A GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. THEY CAN STILL HAVE IT.

Now.


Do we want it?
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Post by b0unce » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:20 pm

j2j wrote:I am voting for Barack Obama.
why ?

Hope/Change/Optimism ?

I watched his show last night, he should get an emmy.
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Post by j2j » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:21 pm

b0unce wrote:
j2j wrote:I am voting for Barack Obama.
why ?

Hope/Change/Optimism ?

I watched his show last night, he should get an emmy.

and you should get a shrink...
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Post by b0unce » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:30 pm

Yes, nicely deflected there. No one is going to catch on that you're drawing a complete fucking BLANK when asked why you're voting for the brown man with nice teeth and fireworks.
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Post by j2j » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:31 pm

and nobody is going to question the fact that you need help.

so there.
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Post by b0unce » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:36 pm

j2j wrote:and nobody is going to question the fact that you need help.

so there.

so there you have it. This useless cabbage is voting in the U.S presidential election - and he's voting on qualities. Like the rest of you fucking idiots.
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Post by Moody » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:37 pm

We all need help. I think the question is; Will we help ourselves? :P
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Post by j2j » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:42 pm

b0unce wrote:
j2j wrote:and nobody is going to question the fact that you need help.

so there.

so there you have it. This useless cabbage is voting in the U.S presidential election - and he's voting on qualities. Like the rest of you fucking idiots.

Here is something, you will never understand.

The reason why Sen. Obama is going to win the US Presidency is actually very simple.

He is the dream.
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