[OT] Is USA and The World safer now due to Bush?

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:46 pm

Hmmm, not sure about you but I'd rather not be smelling the crotch of some deep south US hillbilly, and apparently most californians smell of plastic.

Dunno about the french, but on a personal level I quite like a girl with hairy armpits. Mmmmmmm, musky, earthy odours. Hrrmph hrrrmph

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:52 pm

This is awesome when human beings can rank on each other on opposite sides of the planet ~ Something has to be said about that

In close to real time at that

Ciao Mate!

Peace out dawg!

Hasta La Vista baby!

BTW I prefer large fake boobs over droppy small ones anyday

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:54 pm

On second thought, maybe we should talk about Asian people

"Hello, #6, Thank You!"

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:18 am

Anyway, I am looking forward to beta testing version .001 of the new voting software on Tuesday.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:47 am

forge wrote:
All it said to the world is is what the previous poster said - All americans need to live abroad for at least a year because your media would appear to be amazingly shallow and contrived to make it possible to have a man like bush even close to the whitehouse. To the rest of the world it seems like a joke. Especially when Clinton nearly got impeached for getting a blowjob.

Absurd. For god's sakes america - watch some foreign TV stations at least, watch and believe michael moore because he's one of the few provocative voices of our times - lookup John Pilger the journalist and Vote that fucking moron out - if you collectively let him in again you truly deserve the decline empires inevitably get

hey, just to defend some of the intelligent freaks of nature in the US, we do not all believe the BS. i get my media from all over the world. in fact, i had to watch the BBC to get TV coverage on protests happening in my own country (sure there's indymedia, but i don't have to wait for TV to buffer ;p).

not everyone in this country is stupid. it just happens that the idiots have the money and the connections to get their voices all over, while the rest of us are putting our noses to the grindstone and just working to get rid of the idiots without being glorymongers.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:10 am

special ed wrote:its just that there is not really any difference that any of us can make at this point, an individual cant really make an impact. it takes an army to change things,

everytime i give a homeless person money to eat for the day im doing something to make a difference in just one small instance, thats all i can do.

from the same post even.

ya know, if you tried to physically pick up and move a large bookshelf by yourself, you would probably hurt yourself. the wiser approach would be to take a few tools and break it down into its smaller pieces, and move it one piece at a time. it might take longer to do, but you would accomplish your goal and inevitably learn something about the structure and the way it worked.

point being: if you try to solve the worlds ills all at once, you will become broken and jaded (sound familiar?). but if you take it one piece at a time, you will affect change and perhaps learn something about the world itself, as well as what kind of human being you are.

there is no world possible without conflict. it is the nature of our being. it is how you deal with, try to solve, and learn from that conflict that defines who you are.

i would rather spend my life doing the little things to try and affect change in this world, even it means only small changes, than to spend my life depressed and bitching about them and end up bitter.

we are only powerless when we give our power to affect our surroundings away.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:30 am

special ed wrote:
go die in a act of terror you american pig piece of shit. your life is not worth anything, you are probably nothing but typical milkfed midwestern white american trash. you pretend to know me bitch? take your faggotass from indianapolis up here to chicago, and meet me if you got a problem. you will learn the true definition of helpless. fuck you america, you are the nation of all whores. its no wonder the fucking world hates you. you deserved a taste of your own medicine. you fucking terrorize the rest of the world so you can feel safer at night. america is the foundation of terror, look at how it came to be, by genocide and slavery. if you dont like that fact, thats your problem, you fucking nazi police state. you act hostile towards me, i will deal it back in spades bitch. i wish you were in the wtc's when they fell, they would still be here if your mom was sitting on top with her legs spread.

ooooohhhh...ok...i get it...

your feelings of helplessness and inadequacy have been translated into uncontrollable fits of rage against anyone who disagrees with you.

sounds about like george w bush's temperament to me...

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:32 am

djshiva wrote:
forge wrote:
All it said to the world is is what the previous poster said - All americans need to live abroad for at least a year because your media would appear to be amazingly shallow and contrived to make it possible to have a man like bush even close to the whitehouse. To the rest of the world it seems like a joke. Especially when Clinton nearly got impeached for getting a blowjob.

Absurd. For god's sakes america - watch some foreign TV stations at least, watch and believe michael moore because he's one of the few provocative voices of our times - lookup John Pilger the journalist and Vote that fucking moron out - if you collectively let him in again you truly deserve the decline empires inevitably get
hey, just to defend some of the intelligent freaks of nature in the US, we do not all believe the BS. i get my media from all over the world. in fact, i had to watch the BBC to get TV coverage on protests happening in my own country (sure there's indymedia, but i don't have to wait for TV to buffer ;p).

not everyone in this country is stupid. it just happens that the idiots have the money and the connections to get their voices all over, while the rest of us are putting our noses to the grindstone and just working to get rid of the idiots without being glorymongers.

I know _ reading that back it was a bit harsh - in all honesty I'm still reeling in shock at the current state of the world and when Dubbya got in in the way he did I lost all faith in 'democracy' and Since Tony Blair has so badly let us down I dont even want to know - he was supposed to be the liberal here, so the only real alternative is an even more right wing bunch of fucks.

But as I said in my last defense of my comments - 'the decline and empire gets...' in our case has still been a good standard of living comparatively speaking and that was all I wished on you collectively - whereas like you said, partaking in this war has made us all collectively accessories to murder. I still feel so angry about it I really truly cannot believe the way things have turned out.

And I still believe somewhere in the upper darker echelons of the US halls of power there are some people who had a hand in the WTC attacks. But that's a different story.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:51 am

noisetonepause wrote:... the history of the Middle East is *very* different from that of Western Europe, so copy/pasting our institutions there and expecting them to work after three weeks is, well, on the dangerous side of optimistic, in my humble ability.

well said. and the fact that what we are doing now is exactly the kind of imperialistic meddling that has so pissed off the people tossing our own airplanes back at us bangs the drum of irony as well...

milfbait · Post by **milfbait** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:39 am

All that anti-America BS ranting and special ed lives in.....Chicago. Either he's a terrorist or one hell of a hypocrite.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:13 am

milfbait wrote:All that anti-America BS ranting and special ed lives in.....Chicago. Either he's a terrorist or one hell of a hypocrite.

How's that? You say he should leave his friends and family behind cos of the president?
I don't like much about the current Danish government... hell, there's much I don't like about Denmark, but I'm still here cos it's where I was born and shit. I actually feel an obligation to try and change this country for the better, as odds are my kids will be growing up here!

-Paws

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:36 pm

If y'all would've have watched the season premier of South Park this debate would be null and void - OMG so FUNNY

A big Turd Sandwich vs A Big Fat Douche

The BEST I tell ya' the BEST!

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:41 pm

If you guys in the states get a UK series called 'the power of nightmares' (on cable or whatever) check it out - all about the beginnings of neo-conservatism and Al-Qaeda and really eye opening how muych of this #war on terror' is pure bollocks.

FaX-01 · Post by **FaX-01** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:59 pm

milfbait wrote:All that anti-America BS ranting and special ed lives in.....Chicago. Either he's a terrorist or one hell of a hypocrite.

That my friend is what happens when patriotism turns to facist nationalism.
He is neither a terrorist or a hypocrite.
Just someone disatisfied with the status quo.
Seriously binary logic you're using there Milfbait.
Life isn't all absolutes ,black and whites and zero's and ones.
Try adopting some fuzxzy logic into your thought processes.
"It's a sunny morning" does not = "It's going to be Sunny all Day"
I dislike my government here it makes me neither a terrorist or a hypocrite.
It makes me HUMAN .

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:06 pm

djadonis206 wrote:If y'all would've have watched the season premier of South Park this debate would be null and void - OMG so FUNNY

A big Turd Sandwich vs A Big Fat Douche

The BEST I tell ya' the BEST!

it had it all. from (eco)terrorism to forcing to vote.

Somehow i believe we are going to see some outlandish shit in the next few days. If there ever was a time when more propaganda was floating in the air, i'm glad i missed it.

How they (the wicked media) play it is amazing to see.
I watch in disbelieve when i see people talking about bush like he's the greatest patriot who ever lived.

Regardless of what bush will do or did.
He will be known in history as ' THE DUMBEST FUCK ALIVE'

Sure, you can argue with me there are dumber people then him.
But for conversational sake, lets choose a person with the most documented quotes on video.
You could edit an entire dvd full of busshit, sayin the one idiot remark after another.

And some choice americans have to vote from. A giant doche or a turd sandwich. The snob vs. the hillbilly.

Anyway, the point i wanted to make is this. To anyone still sceptical towards the fact that the media is trying to control your thoughts.
Stay Tuned
The next few days are going to be the most significant days if you wonna spot propaganda. It's a fun game to play propaganda-spotting.

Here's a whole site full in case you missed something.

cheers