Designer drums. Well done abes!

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:39 pm

am i a total retard here? where are they in my library after install? what are they called!! what the hell?

forge · Post by **forge** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:42 pm

Emissary wrote:am i a total retard here? where are they in my library after install? what are they called!! what the hell?

no this is exactly what we've been talking about

the one wy you can find these ones is they have "(operator)" in the title, or as andrewbrewer said sort by 'date modified' in the browser

but I recommend creating a folder for them

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:52 pm

forge wrote:
Emissary wrote:am i a total retard here? where are they in my library after install? what are they called!! what the hell?
no this is exactly what we've been talking about

the one wy you can find these ones is they have "(operator)" in the title, or as andrewbrewer said sort by 'date modified' in the browser

but I recommend creating a folder for them

cool thanks, but what section are they under, they are called designer drums but i have no folder called designer drums under either operator or drum racks?

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:54 pm

its cool, i found them forge, under kits (duuuur) thanks anyway

Newecho · Post by **Newecho** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:47 pm

Tone Deft wrote:where do these show up? are they the new presets that have (Operator) tagged after them? is that all of them?

Hi All,

I just posted an entry to my blog with installation and usage notes for Designer Drums. See - http://www.modulatethis.com/2008/09/installing-and.html

Enjoy,

Mark

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:23 pm

Emissary wrote:am i a total retard here?

yes.

and I'm feeling like one as well...

andrewbrewer wrote:i'm probably saying the obvious, but i usually show "date modified" as a field in my patch-browser ... i sorted on that field to see the new operator drum presets.

I never knew that, thanks! best tidbit of advice I've read for a while!!

forge · Post by **forge** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:47 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
Emissary wrote:am i a total retard here?
yes.

and I'm feeling like one as well...
andrewbrewer wrote:i'm probably saying the obvious, but i usually show "date modified" as a field in my patch-browser ... i sorted on that field to see the new operator drum presets.
I never knew that, thanks! best tidbit of advice I've read for a while!!

I use those path columns quite a lot and that didn't occur to me either initially

if you're really tricky then you'll notice a little discrepancy with those sort columns when changing from ascending/descending depending on whether the folders are open closed

went to the gypsy · Post by **went to the gypsy** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:22 am

YEA!! Candy!!

-wttg-

jonny72 · Post by **jonny72** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:19 pm

Splashmas wrote:That looks nice Forge.

What do you think will happen when it comes to installing a session drums or drum machines update. Do you think the updater would get really confused? Also, reckon it could cause any confusion with authorisation for the packs?

I guess the sensible suggestion is to archive a copy of the library in it's original form.

I decided to re-organise my library a while back, which was not a good idea. Partly due to all the missing samples I ended up with and partly due to it all going Pete Tong when Live installed updates for the packs.

So personally, I'd recommend you don't mess with it. Instead, send an email to Ableton telling them to sort it out - you should be able to move things about without everything breaking.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:59 pm

jonny72 wrote:
Splashmas wrote:That looks nice Forge.

What do you think will happen when it comes to installing a session drums or drum machines update. Do you think the updater would get really confused? Also, reckon it could cause any confusion with authorisation for the packs?

I guess the sensible suggestion is to archive a copy of the library in it's original form.
I decided to re-organise my library a while back, which was not a good idea. Partly due to all the missing samples I ended up with and partly due to it all going Pete Tong when Live installed updates for the packs.

So personally, I'd recommend you don't mess with it. Instead, send an email to Ableton telling them to sort it out - you should be able to move things about without everything breaking.

I'd agree, but one way you can re-organize is to make your own Drum Rack folder and then copy things in the way you want, thus leaving the regular library as is. I made my own folder in the drum racks folder where I put my own version of the drum machines kits and the designer drums kits and so on in their own sub folders. You know it'll be safe that way.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:21 pm

Be sure to check the Library/Clips/DesignerDrums folder and try the clips that go with the kits if you've not found them already, some good stuff in there.

Punky921 · Post by **Punky921** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:59 pm

Sweet! I'll have to check this out. The drums are definitely my favorite part of Ableton.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:07 am

glitchrock-buddha wrote:
jonny72 wrote:
Splashmas wrote:That looks nice Forge.

What do you think will happen when it comes to installing a session drums or drum machines update. Do you think the updater would get really confused? Also, reckon it could cause any confusion with authorisation for the packs?

I guess the sensible suggestion is to archive a copy of the library in it's original form.
I decided to re-organise my library a while back, which was not a good idea. Partly due to all the missing samples I ended up with and partly due to it all going Pete Tong when Live installed updates for the packs.

So personally, I'd recommend you don't mess with it. Instead, send an email to Ableton telling them to sort it out - you should be able to move things about without everything breaking.
I'd agree, but one way you can re-organize is to make your own Drum Rack folder and then copy things in the way you want, thus leaving the regular library as is. I made my own folder in the drum racks folder where I put my own version of the drum machines kits and the designer drums kits and so on in their own sub folders. You know it'll be safe that way.

yeah that's all I did - I only moved ADG files, not samples - no problems so far, but yeah I haven't updated yet, but at the moment I have no need to - I was fine with 7.07 until this pack made me update

jonny72 · Post by **jonny72** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:50 am

forge wrote:yeah that's all I did - I only moved ADG files, not samples - no problems so far, but yeah I haven't updated yet, but at the moment I have no need to - I was fine with 7.07 until this pack made me update

Its probable that it hit the fan when I went from Live 6 to 7, Ableton don't tend to update the Live packs much on point releases. Its not the end of the world either, I just deleted the library, installed all the packs again then copied my stuff in - probably not a bad idea doing that anyway after an upgrade.

Worth keeping a copy of all the ALP files just in case you do need to re-install.

db2 · Post by **db2** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:02 pm

edit: oops