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sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:57 pm

nothing to see here

jeffrydada · Post by **jeffrydada** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:59 pm

I quess it all depends on why you play and write music at all. If you do it to put bread on the table then you almost have to produce what people demand, whether or not it makes you happy. Musicians talk alot about paying their dues, and even bands like you mentioned had to play stuff they didn't like to get the attention of the right people. I've been writing commercial jiggles and such for years and I give the customer what he wants, it pays the bills. Music is just as market driven as any other bussiness. The only way a musician can really get fulfillment from his music is to take away the money factor. When money isn't a factor we don't have to care what other people think and can play what we like to our hearts content. Welcome to music reality brother, don't let anyone try to convince you that writing music for the masses to put bread on the table is selling out your idealism either, it's merely on hold till the dues are paid.
Blessings
j

DJ Precious · Post by **DJ Precious** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:29 pm

I disagree with jeffrydada. I believe the moment you start writing music to please anyone else but yourself -your music is going to suffer because of it -and as a result you are going to create music that is not fully potentialized -and therefore be all and all less marketable and appeal to fewer people.

It took me a long time to figure that out, but ironicly this idea is the very first thing I thought of when I first started playing guitar in a punk band when I was young. Back then I thought "Hey, I can finally make the kind of music I want to hear!". I used to go to the record store as a kid and look for albums but I never found exactly what I wanted, and my inital thought was that I could now make what I wanted to hear.

Make the music you want.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:03 pm

i think you both actually have the same view as music for a "paying audience", but a different way of describing it.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:34 pm

jeffrydada wrote:The only way a musician can really get fulfillment from his music is to take away the money factor. When money isn't a factor we don't have to care what other people think and can play what we like to our hearts content. Welcome to music reality brother, don't let anyone try to convince you that writing music for the masses to put bread on the table is selling out your idealism either, it's merely on hold till the dues are paid.
Blessings
j

exactly. The happiest day of my short music career was when I decided not to try to make a living being a pleaser... I don't expect to EVER make a living as a musician, hell, I might just be pleasantly surprised if it turns out otherwise

There *is* some satisfaction meeting a customers demand whilst producing absolute bull-crap, conveyor-belt stylee, but it it's just pride in your workmanship, nothing more.

A.