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Post by forge » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:56 pm

beats me wrote:
Hidden Driveways wrote:
brightonalex wrote:I read that record companies are going to start selling vinyl again, and include a free download in the price for your ipod.

It makes sense to me, people want to pay for something tactile. Artwork, sleeve, all the rest of it.
YES. This is the coolest thing ever. I've bought two LPs so far that have this: Of Montreal's Sunlandic Twins and Okkervil River's The Stage Names. Those are both indie bands, but if the electronic labels and mainstream labels started doing this also, it would just be soooooo great.
And Microsoft will re-release Windows NT. I think it's either an interesting experiment or a desperate last minute attempt by labels to figure out how to turn some kind of profit while the industry turns ass backwards.

No offense to vinyl enthusiasts and I am sure there is a market but nowhere near what it was. I know countless vinyl DJs who spat on CDJs and emerging all digital platforms back in the day and guess who is rocking Traktor now? You could probably make a 6 hour movie of all their youtube videos defending, um, I mean praising their decision to switch platforms.
different times now

I think the Model Radiohead just put forward is probably a pretty realistic one for the future - the recordings themselves free if you want, but the collectable item for a premium (they released in rainbows as an expensive vinyl box set)

it is because there is no value to mass produced freely downloadable recordings in our disposable society that unique and collectable things are starting to see a resurgence

this is why people are paying more than ever to go to shows and people like Madonna have signed to touring companies instead of record companies - people are prepared to pay for what is unique, things that can be infinitely copied and distributed with no loss are totally valueless

I read an article once about how it might be ironically vinyl that ultimately supersedes the CD and not MP3 for this reason

an interesting read on a similar point: http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/04/29/are-cds-dead/

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Post by Big McBallin' » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:00 pm

forge wrote:
Sales Dude McBoob wrote:...
wha..?
Hidden Driveways wrote:...
huh..?
DJ Precious wrote:...
But...?
May was well round out this post with my fourth and final login, my Adonis alter ego that was created on one particularly chaotic day (...smuuuuu i'm lookin' at you).


But anyway, piZMo, I'm sorry to hear that, but the good news is that you can do something about it. You miss vinyl. You love vinyl. I suggest using vinyl!

The first thing you have to do is stop buying MP3s. Use that money to buy records. Build up a little collection and some day you can introduce your new collection to your old collection and you can have one big happy family. Forever. This family doesn't crash or need to be backed up.

beats me - this is bigger than all of those sorry ass billygoat Djs. This is about Aunt Phillis and Uncle Phil deciding that they want to buy Linda Ronstadt LPs and a new turntable to go with it.
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Post by Hidden Driveways » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:23 pm

Wired wrote:According to the RIAA's recently-released 2007 sales report, the American music industry sold 36.6 percent more Extended Play (EP) and Long Play (LP) records than it had in the previous year, increasing vinyl sales revenue by 46.2 percent. CD unit sales, on the other hand, declined 11.7 percent with revenue dropping 20.5 percent during the same period.
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/04/ria ... s-vin.html

I bet you the figures for 2008 bury 2007. GO VINYL GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by ohiowa » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:51 pm

i'm just happy that CDs are bowing out (or going down swinging).

You see with vinyl, even if you record digitally you can cut the vinyl master from a 24bit digital master so NO NEED FOR DITHERING (if you record at 24bit 44.1khz) plus greater audio fidelity not just "warmth".

vinyl is more expensive than ever to manufacture, approx a little over 2x what CD manufacturing costs (depending on certain factors). so that's a deterrent, but vinyl with download is a pretty exciting premise.

labels/artists can also encode their mp3s they include in the download at a higher bit rate than joints like itunes and emusic or thrill jockey provide them so there is another bonus to that.

CDs just mostly suck, they were good at the time, but are outdated for portability and fidelity. just like DATS (the worst aspects of analong and digital).

i will keep buying raster-noton CDs because they put thought and care into their packaging and use the disc as part of the aesthetic.
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Post by lola » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:27 pm

Hidden Driveways wrote:
Wired wrote:According to the RIAA's recently-released 2007 sales report, the American music industry sold 36.6 percent more Extended Play (EP) and Long Play (LP) records than it had in the previous year, increasing vinyl sales revenue by 46.2 percent. CD unit sales, on the other hand, declined 11.7 percent with revenue dropping 20.5 percent during the same period.
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/04/ria ... s-vin.html

I bet you the figures for 2008 bury 2007. GO VINYL GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
What music style they are talking about?

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