hip hop on ableton?

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Post by Nick the Zombie » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:33 pm

Marx wrote:
Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:You're totally right. Live has no hip-hop features. This has to do with it's German origin. At it's best it can come up with some minimal ambient techno or perhaps some cheesy euro disco. But hip-hop. No way.

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what? Deltron makes all his music Live.

Live is a loop based program. MPC's are loop based machines.

What is it about a "Rap beat" that can't be done on ableton?
:arrow: :arrow: He was just kidding.

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Post by silverlulu » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:37 pm

i started to make a beat like this on ableton, hiphop can be very easy to make as it's just very often the same melody repeated for about 4 mins with a few extra sounds added in to signal the chorus.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CQgR-o6Hf_A
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Post by v00d00ppl » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:22 pm

coming from the mpc 1000 to live 5......i was able to double my workflow in the same amount of time.

Just chop your samples up in an audio editor.........

drop the samples in simpler, sampler, drum rack, and impulse.

then go nuts.
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Post by EgAD » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:19 am

dude must be looking for groove features.

there are none. traditionaly speaking but.....

fuck with the warp markers, there is good shit to be had and by the time Live 27 comes out you will be able to sync live to your mpc with out a problem.

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Post by Broken Chip » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:24 am

Hip Hop can be made on a sampler with 1 SECOND of sample time!
That's how it was back in the day.
It's not what you have, it's the way you use it and live is just another tool. if you think it can't be done in live then you're in the wrong game.

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Post by DJ VAKIS » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:52 am

Broken Chip wrote:Hip Hop can be made on a sampler with 1 SECOND of sample time!
That's how it was back in the day.
It's not what you have, it's the way you use it and live is just another tool. if you think it can't be done in live then you're in the wrong game.
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Post by Tweaking Knobs » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:17 am

i heard hip hop was dead.

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Post by silverlulu » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:43 pm

well nas said that, and lets face it. nas is a fucking loser.

but yes either way hiphop is pretty damn horrible right now. it might as well be dead.

hiphop = pop
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Re: hip hop on ableton?

Post by S127 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:14 pm

mikey92 wrote:im having a lot of trouble using ableton for hip hop production... it feels like there isnt enough on ableton for that purpose. any ideas for me?
you gotta be kidding me :lol: :lol:

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Post by chaibuka » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:38 pm

gearslutz.com has a hiphop production forum that might be of interest.
Hears a link to a ableton thread.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip- ... ricks.html

Also has a electronic music forum

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/electron ... roduction/

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Post by funknotik » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:54 pm

Live is only for tarnce and psytrance.
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Post by Debra Van Valkenburg » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:33 pm

Live 7 and Pad Kontrol has recently replaced my SP-1200 drum machine (12 bit, 10 second sample time) and Roland 16 track.. I use primarily for Hip Hop/Beat oriented music.

I haven't even scratched the surface of Live 7 and already I have way more freedom/options than my 2 old standbys. Slice to midi is my friend.

Live is perfect for Hip Hop..
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Post by starving student » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:42 pm

Debra Van Valkenburg wrote:Live 7 and Pad Kontrol has recently replaced my SP-1200 drum machine (12 bit, 10 second sample time) and Roland 16 track.. I use primarily for Hip Hop/Beat oriented music.

I haven't even scratched the surface of Live 7 and already I have way more freedom/options than my 2 old standbys. Slice to midi is my friend.

Live is perfect for Hip Hop..
feature wise Live is just the tastiest piece of chompware in existence but are you not missing the sound you got out of the sp?

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Post by Debra Van Valkenburg » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:58 pm

Well I been using it since 1990..

It's very limiting..for example trying to add an 808 or a crash or ride takes up a lot of sample time, so sometimes I'd have to use 2 disks. Being limited like that for so long and then using Live was actually overwhelming at first..

I imagine once I get totally comfortable with Live I will go back to firing up the old drum machine and integrating that crunchy sound into what Im doing now.
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Post by starving student » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:05 pm

oops :lol:

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