Any ideas on RBass equivalent in Ableton?

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:56 pm

I'm slowly moving from Cubase (PC) to Ableton (Mac) and seem to be struggling with a decent replacement to get that compressed 85hz bassline that Waves RBass gives me on the PC.

Any suggestions? The EQ8 in Ableton doesn't really do the trick, without setting up a rack of EQs and compressors etc.

pbanken · Post by **pbanken** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:31 am

I am not sure if this helps you, but when it comes to VST bass sounds, I highly recommend Native Instruments 'Massive'. Pinning it down imply on bass sounds is hugely unfair to this amazing VST synth, and I am not sure if you weren't looking for a Ableton Plug In to do the job, but nevertheless, this beast is worth checking it out!

I hope this helps!

Cheers, pbanken

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:21 pm

Cheers mate... I'll check that out.

However... What I'm wanting to do, is all within Ableton.... Basically to EQ and Compress around the 80-90Hz frequency, giving a bassline some extra depth.

If I use the EQ8, this doesn't seem to actually do anything other than boost... I guess I'll just keep fiddling with compressors etc for now, as I'm only just getting to grips with Ableton and the manual is getting a tad boring on the 3rd read, so it's going back in the box!

Superchibisan · Post by **Superchibisan** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:45 pm

i use the saturator plug in.

just switch the disto type to sine fold and drop the filters down to teh bass range.

compress afterwards to smooth it out. works like a charm, just don't overdo it.

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:26 pm

yeah, I was just literally thinking about that kind of a chain whilst in the shower, haha!

Will give it a whirl in a bit.

daytone · Post by **daytone** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:45 pm

why change from rbass?
waves vst works in live.....

BassTooth · Post by **BassTooth** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:21 pm

Superchibisan wrote:i use the saturator plug in.

just switch the disto type to sine fold and drop the filters down to teh bass range.

compress afterwards to smooth it out. works like a charm, just don't overdo it.

very nice. that is a sweet trick.

blakbeltjonez · Post by **blakbeltjonez** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:39 pm

-add new track, put in monitor mode
-select input from track or bus you want to process
(you really don't want it on *everything*)
-put auto filter with bandpass, in the range where you want it (60, 80, 100Hz, etc)
-slap compressor after it, tweak filt. frequency, Q, and adjust level to taste

it's kind of like the idea of setting your subs on an aux for live sound,
(which has become pretty standardized these days) it's a lot more powerful to
me than adding a bunch of EQ. you could also put the filter chain on an aux send too.

edit: i see now that the same basic thing has been suggested above...

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:07 pm

Yeah I see that.... It's sounding much sweeter now, but not quite as good as the RBass... Will keep fiddling and let you know if I find more...

Cheers for the offers so far guys

Superchibisan · Post by **Superchibisan** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:56 pm

i hate the way rbass sounds.

glamourboy · Post by **glamourboy** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:44 pm

psp mixpack has a bass saturator that i've been playing with last couple of days. but the tip on using abes own saturator sounds interesting.

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:12 pm

OK... Am sat on the laptop with headphones right now (so the settings may be a little exaggerated for studio use) and fiddling with saturator.

Although I don't quite understand some of the ways the knobs have been named, but from playing-by-ear, this I've found is giving a good effect to bass boosting.

Anyone else getting this?

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:28 pm

Right.

Now I'm in the studio......

And that's how it's looking.... I'll be honest, still needs a bit more tweaking, but I'm really starting to get some great depth to the 80-100hz area of a bassline.

Thanks for the tips guys, let me know if you have other setups etc.

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