Democracy still works. Bill a no go

deva · Post by **deva** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:23 pm

Machinesworking wrote:It's just business as usual. You get to a certain level financially and you're not accountable like any of us are, that's all. I would love to think this could get people organized against the power structure etc. but look, starting wars on lies didn't do it, letting New Orleans drown didn't do it, getting the right to assembly compromised didn't do it.....

Basically people are sheep, and it's time for a leader like Cthulhu!

within the next 3 years, there will be some executives hanging by ropes from trees...

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:23 pm

deva wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:seriously though, this kind of behavior is the worst kind, uneducated panic. it's the same bullshit that made day traders add a huge random factor to the stock market. why not wait and see what happens before you go around telling people to panic.

my $0.02. hang tight, see what happens.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... priceless... the fed and bush are going around saying if they are not given unaccountable power that Financial Armageddon is just around the corner

and some democratic congresspeople were told that they were risking the imposition of martial law (on the streets, not the congressional kind) if they did not vote for the bill and you are concerned what a few people might say on a forum!!

Saturday Night Live couldn't do better in the irony department

you miss my point completely.

/off to AES.

deva · Post by **deva** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:24 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
deva wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:seriously though, this kind of behavior is the worst kind, uneducated panic. it's the same bullshit that made day traders add a huge random factor to the stock market. why not wait and see what happens before you go around telling people to panic.

my $0.02. hang tight, see what happens.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... priceless... the fed and bush are going around saying if they are not given unaccountable power that Financial Armageddon is just around the corner

and some democratic congresspeople were told that they were risking the imposition of martial law (on the streets, not the congressional kind) if they did not vote for the bill and you are concerned what a few people might say on a forum!!

Saturday Night Live couldn't do better in the irony department
you miss my point completely.

/off to AES.

well at least I had a good laugh

so what was your point?

NorthernMonkey · Post by **NorthernMonkey** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:35 pm

deva wrote:
NorthernMonkey wrote:
Emissary wrote:seriously though, i am sure your a nice guy but i think your wrong on this one.
No worries, we'll agree to disagree. Huge relief from my point of view though, we can all start to look forward now.
of course you like it... you do not live in the US and the industry you work for just received a vast welfare check... there are plenty of people who are genuinely happy because their personal bottom line is improved, but for the US and most US citizens, this is a disaster

I appreciate it's a bitter pill for you to swallow but in a few years you can look back and smile at the nonsense you wrote.

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:38 pm

Lol no wonder you like the bailout bill... you're not American

NorthernMonkey · Post by **NorthernMonkey** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:39 pm

OvertoneZero wrote:Lol no wonder you like the bailout bill... you're not American

Emissary's welsh and he wasn't very keen. What's your point?

elxicano · Post by **elxicano** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:41 pm

deva wrote:
NorthernMonkey wrote:
Emissary wrote:seriously though, i am sure your a nice guy but i think your wrong on this one.
No worries, we'll agree to disagree. Huge relief from my point of view though, we can all start to look forward now.
of course you like it... you do not live in the US and the industry you work for just received a vast welfare check... there are plenty of people who are genuinely happy because their personal bottom line is improved, but for the US and most US citizens, this is a disaster

You do realize your point of view is ironic, as its the same sort of chaos/panic speech politicians were given to push this through?

...anyways, its been signed into law, with an extra 150 billion. whoohoo! (sarcasm).

I know Deva you are still convinced that we should have let it all fail, but as stated before... "a" bill was going to pass because one was needed. Was this the right approach? ...300 pages of rhetoric, that barely scratches the surface of what's needed, but its still better than no action at all, despite your objection and other's objections.

There was far more at stake than most realize.

Its a crazy system we have, were people make it rich betting against the financial system and hoping for its failure. No matter what way the system fails, wether today or tomorrow, the rich will stay rich and everyone else will bare the burden of their decisions. This is our system and the only way to changing it is by working your way inside and then back out. Watching it fail only fucks the "little guy" more than what's happened already.

...one day you'll understand.

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:43 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_b ... ial_system

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:44 pm

NorthernMonkey wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote:Lol no wonder you like the bailout bill... you're not American
Emissary's welsh and he wasn't very keen. What's your point?

My point is that it's quite groovy for you since you don't have to foot the bill.

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:45 pm

NorthernMonkey wrote:
deva wrote:
NorthernMonkey wrote: No worries, we'll agree to disagree. Huge relief from my point of view though, we can all start to look forward now.
of course you like it... you do not live in the US and the industry you work for just received a vast welfare check... there are plenty of people who are genuinely happy because their personal bottom line is improved, but for the US and most US citizens, this is a disaster
I appreciate it's a bitter pill for you to swallow but in a few years you can look back and smile at the nonsense you wrote.

i think thats a bit harsh. It may well be yourself looking back in a few months with a rather hot pair of cheekyweeks. time will tell.

NorthernMonkey · Post by **NorthernMonkey** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:49 pm

OvertoneZero wrote:
NorthernMonkey wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote:Lol no wonder you like the bailout bill... you're not American
Emissary's welsh and he wasn't very keen. What's your point?

My point is that it's quite groovy for you since you don't have to foot the bill.

Why should I foot the bill?

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:50 pm

Monkey what line of work are you in?

NorthernMonkey · Post by **NorthernMonkey** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:50 pm

OvertoneZero wrote:Why should I foot the bill?

Are you american?

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:51 pm

NorthernMonkey wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote:
NorthernMonkey wrote: Emissary's welsh and he wasn't very keen. What's your point?

My point is that it's quite groovy for you since you don't have to foot the bill.
Why should I foot the bill?

to be fair, if america goes down its taking the uk with it. So if this bill fails to ignite the markets then the uk is going to be hit almost as hard. except we haven't been lumbered with something like $3000-$7000 each.

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:52 pm

I live in America but I sure wish I didn't. I am single, I have no debt, I have always lived within my means. Why should I pay for this shit? Garbage.