new MacBook and MacBook Pro on Tuesday, October 14th

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Post by CWoodOne » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:18 pm

_alexander_ wrote:only FW800????? that is a deal breaker for me since I have a few FW400 pieces of gear. :(
a cable adaptor would work to connect FW400 devices, right? I hope so!

But I can't believe Apple did that....

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Post by hacktheplanet » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:22 pm

ground_control wrote:The FW thing sucks, for sure, but I'm also kind of bummed about the touchpad and being forced into using tap-to-click, which I've always despised.

Everytime I use the laptops at work that have tap to click turned on, I always end up tapping and dragging things I don't want to. It's going to make using these lappies live a nightmare for me.

Does anyone here use there touchpad live with tap-to-click on? Do you get use to it?

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Post by noisetonepause » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:24 pm

ground_control wrote:The FW thing sucks, for sure, but I'm also kind of bummed about the touchpad and being forced into using tap-to-click, which I've always despised.
It's not tap-to-click, the new trackpad is an actual button. I think it might even be like a Mighty Mouse, where no buttons = 2 buttons...

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Post by hacktheplanet » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:25 pm

noisetonepause wrote:
ground_control wrote:The FW thing sucks, for sure, but I'm also kind of bummed about the touchpad and being forced into using tap-to-click, which I've always despised.
It's not tap-to-click, the new trackpad is an actual button. I think it might even be like a Mighty Mouse, where no buttons = 2 buttons...
OOoh... That's kinda weird.
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Post by oblique strategies » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:26 pm

OK, on the plus side: I really do like the 'unibody' solid chunk of aluminum frame/case. Now that is excellent.

One step forward, two steps back. :?
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Post by Kodama » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:26 pm

oblique strategies wrote:
Kodama wrote:Not like there are any good/affordable expresscard options at all...
If you mean good OR affordable (rather than good AND affordable), then I'll mention the RME expresscard option which is fab, but not cheap!

Even IF I wanted to spend more money than a Macbook on an audio interface, I would not like RME's clunky outboard options...

They seem less than portable and usually have 0-1 preamps.

There should be a nice 4/6 portable, stable Expresscard interface for more like $500.
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Post by Kodama » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:29 pm

And I should say that I know why there aren't many Expresscard interfaces, it's the same reason why FireWire never caught on, USB 2 is "Good Enough" and "Good Enough" rules the world...

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Post by oblique strategies » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:31 pm

Kodama wrote:
oblique strategies wrote:
Kodama wrote:Not like there are any good/affordable expresscard options at all...
If you mean good OR affordable (rather than good AND affordable), then I'll mention the RME expresscard option which is fab, but not cheap!

Even IF I wanted to spend more money than a Macbook on an audio interface, I would not like RME's clunky outboard options...

They seem less than portable and usually have 0-1 preamps.

There should be a nice 4/6 portable, stable Expresscard interface for more like $500.
It is taking the audio companies a really long time to embrace expresscard technology... i wish ECHO would release expresscard versions of their PCMCIA cardbus line of I/O's.

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Post by ground_control » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:33 pm

Yeah, I'm sure I can used to it, but for live use I don't want to have to get used to too much, y'know?

If it takes me a month to get used to using it, that's a month of either playing out on my old laptop or a month of nervous gigs.

I'm blowing this out of proportion, because I can't afford a new laptop anyway, but it's just another example of the part of Apple's mentality that I dislike.

They always just move ahead with new technologies without thinking of people who don't want to replace all their gear or ways of working everytime they get a new computer. It was the same with the switch to expresscard imo.

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Post by ground_control » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:35 pm

noisetonepause wrote:
ground_control wrote:The FW thing sucks, for sure, but I'm also kind of bummed about the touchpad and being forced into using tap-to-click, which I've always despised.
It's not tap-to-click, the new trackpad is an actual button. I think it might even be like a Mighty Mouse, where no buttons = 2 buttons...
Really, so it has a click? Where'd you see that out of curiousity?

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Post by oblique strategies » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:39 pm

you can plainly see how reflective the bezel is around the equally reflective display.

They just copied all those dismally designed giant TVs! Why would you want to add distracting reflections to something that you are trying to look at?

Boo, Apple, boo.
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Post by glitchrock-buddha » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:49 pm

ground_control wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:
ground_control wrote:The FW thing sucks, for sure, but I'm also kind of bummed about the touchpad and being forced into using tap-to-click, which I've always despised.
It's not tap-to-click, the new trackpad is an actual button. I think it might even be like a Mighty Mouse, where no buttons = 2 buttons...
Really, so it has a click? Where'd you see that out of curiousity?
If you watch the video of the new macbook you can see someone's fingers about 3/4 of the way through push it down when they're talking about the trackpad. (on the site)
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Post by jah4life » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:50 pm

SERIOUSLY, THE REFLECTIVE SCREEN IS RIDICULOUS!

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Post by ground_control » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:57 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:
ground_control wrote:
noisetonepause wrote: It's not tap-to-click, the new trackpad is an actual button. I think it might even be like a Mighty Mouse, where no buttons = 2 buttons...
Really, so it has a click? Where'd you see that out of curiousity?
If you watch the video of the new macbook you can see someone's fingers about 3/4 of the way through push it down when they're talking about the trackpad. (on the site)
Cool, thanks. That's a hell of a lot better than tap-to-click. I may yet be won over. Still no money tho.

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Post by oblique strategies » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:58 pm

Not crazy about the optical drive being on the right side instead of in front where Mother Nature intended it to be... It's a perversion.

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