Small USB2 equivalent of Echo AudioFire2

robin · Post by **robin** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:35 pm

I think you might be right.

I think I might go with the NI interface (or the Audio

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stutter · Post by **stutter** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:10 pm

I have an Audio Kontrol, and pretty happy with it. Doesn't have multi-client midi drivers (i.e. it's midi ports are hogged by whichever app first grabs them) in case that's important to you.
Novation Nio is the other one I'd look at.

robin · Post by **robin** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:31 pm

stutter wrote:I have an Audio Kontrol, and pretty happy with it. Doesn't have multi-client midi drivers (i.e. it's midi ports are hogged by whichever app first grabs them) in case that's important to you..

Oh, that probably stops me using MidiStroke and Live at the same time then....

dru · Post by **dru** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:09 am

http://www.lexiconpro.com/ProductIndex.aspx?ProductID=7

Would that work?

robin · Post by **robin** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:18 am

Good suggestion.

How many actual simultaneous output channels? I need 4 (two of them a stereo headphone out).

nonnus · Post by **nonnus** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:00 pm

robin: cant you wait until january ?

i am sure the macbooks will never have firewire back and they will probably drop it from entire line if everybody start ditching their existing hardware just to have a new shinny machine

your blackbook is still a better audio machine, why change for worse ?

dru · Post by **dru** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:00 pm

robin wrote:Good suggestion.

How many actual simultaneous output channels? I need 4 (two of them a stereo headphone out).

Could you not use the Macbook's internal card for headphone out using Aggregate Devices?

stutter · Post by **stutter** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:37 pm

robin wrote: Oh, that probably stops me using MidiStroke and Live at the same time then....

probably. Midistroke is Mac I think - I'm on pc. Try asking at the Native Instruments forum to be sure

Only for the midi port on the AK1 - other midi ports you might have will function happily - but I imagine you might want to use that with your controller-thingies.

robin · Post by **robin** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:04 pm

dru wrote:
robin wrote:Good suggestion.

How many actual simultaneous output channels? I need 4 (two of them a stereo headphone out).
Could you not use the Macbook's internal card for headphone out using Aggregate Devices?

I could yes. I might play with that.

robin · Post by **robin** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:07 pm

stutter wrote: probably. Midistroke is Mac I think - I'm on pc. Try asking at the Native Instruments forum to be sure

Only for the midi port on the AK1 - other midi ports you might have will function happily - but I imagine you might want to use that with your controller-thingies.

OK. Noted.

Anyone know if this is a limitation in OSX? I'll be surprised if it is.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:13 pm

robin wrote:
dru wrote:
robin wrote:Good suggestion.

How many actual simultaneous output channels? I need 4 (two of them a stereo headphone out).
Could you not use the Macbook's internal card for headphone out using Aggregate Devices?
I could yes. I might play with that.

I've done it my M-Audio FW Solo bunches of times, it's a great feature, and it works quite well.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:15 pm

robin wrote:
stutter wrote: Only for the midi port on the AK1 - other midi ports you might have will function happily - but I imagine you might want to use that with your controller-thingies.
OK. Noted.

Anyone know if this is a limitation in OSX? I'll be surprised if it is.

It's an issue with the drivers. Since it would very much unlike NI to ask their two braincells to collaborate and just make a class compliant USB interface, they'll probably have written their own drivers. And failed, apparently. What a surprise.

edit - if stutter's on a pc the issue might not exist on macks.

robin · Post by **robin** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:18 pm

noisetonepause wrote: It's an issue with the drivers. Since it would very much unlike NI to ask their two braincells to collaborate and just make a class compliant USB interface, they'll probably have written their own drivers. And failed, apparently. What a surprise.

Balls. Well if it is that bad then they've lost a sale.

wascal · Post by **wascal** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:20 pm

Why not just keep what you have already? No ones forcing you to buy a shiny new mac

robin · Post by **robin** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:23 pm

wascal wrote:Why not just keep what you have already? No ones forcing you to buy a shiny new mac

Well, I need it for other things and it will work well for that. It needs to be 12" powerbook style portable (yes I've had 3 of those).

My other half need the Blackbook off me now too.

I understand what you're saying though but there are quite a few other factors at play here.