mostly talk, I hear ya... better to be all talk without the hate.Sleep Tyght wrote:Nevermind...all talk.
Tone Deft wrote:mostly talk, I hear ya... better to be all talk without the hate.Sleep Tyght wrote:Nevermind...all talk.
starving student wrote:well i read through that paticular thread, there was a couple of things in there but not much, for all of us talking about sync here's a cross post by Satoyo on how he does it, maybe you've tried it maybe you haven't but here it is.
roll call - nice idea. lets get this thread sticky!!!
here's the full laydown on how to MIDI sync your mpc 1000/2500 with ableton live:
MIDI CONNECTION & SETUP IN THE MPC OS/ABLETON
connect the mpc midi out to the midi in of your interface.
the main outs to your interface's audio input
(not necessesary for syncing, but you'll need it later for finetuning)
go to the SYNC Menu (MODE + PAD 9 then F2)
and set it up like this:
Sync out: A MASTER
Mode: MIDI TIME CLOCK
Framerate: 30
send MMC: ON
your mpc sends out mtc and mmc now
Start Ableton Live and go to
OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > MIDI/SYNC
set the SYNC button of your Midi ports midi input to ON
Set the Type to MIDI TIMECODE
Set the Midi Time code rate to SMPT 30 FPS NON DROP
Activate the EXT button on top, next to the BPM display for setting
Live into External Sync Mode.
Also activate the button with the black and white dot (that's Live's Metronome).
Start your empeecee in Overdub Mode (OVER DUB + PLAY)
The empeecee and Live should now start playing.
If everything is fine, you should hear the two metronomes sound
running
Should you hear the two Metronomes Sounds running not perfectly in Sync,
Try to fine tune that, play around with the MIDI SYNC DELAY until both are in complete Sync. (mine runs at -25.5 ms, for example, but that may differ...)
Another Possibility would be exact setup of your audio latency compensation. there is a lesson in lives help covering correct setup.
do that, if needed.
Congrats, you did it.
Now live is running in sync with your empeecee and you can control Live's
sequencer controls (play, stop, ff,....) with the controls of your mpc.
you can also send midi data from the mpc to virtual instruments loaded up
in live.
All that funky vsti's controlled and sequenced with intuitive"hands on"-style
of the empeecee, isn't this lovely...
From this point on, you might be interested in
CONTROLLING MULTIPLE VSTis IN ABLETON WITH THE MPC
On your mpc, set your TRACK setting from DRUM to MIDI and set your MIDI output from NONE to, e.g. 1A.
I saved a .PGM file where every track uses a different midi channel so i can send 16 (32, if you use your second midi out) channels of midi data.
In Ableton Live, click on the small black button labeled "I.O"
Its next to the Master output fader on the right side.
Now your Input and Output routings appear.
Now, create some midi channels in Live (CTRL+SHIFT+T).
There are four knobs:
MIDI FROM: select the midi interface where you plugged your MPC in.
CHANNEL: select your Desired channel, Either All or 1 to 16
MONITOR:
IN: will playback all the time
AUTO: will playback only if the channel is set to record
OFF: no playback at all
Set your channels correct and then, the mpc will use live as one big rack.
you can push your pads and have the mpc feel and groove, but you will be able to mix down and process nicely in live using plugins & stuff.
have fun with that.
greetz,
satoyo
it finally clicked Have you checked the new 7.09 beta in the bugs forum which seems to have this exact issue as a bug fix??Khazul wrote:The sync issue seems to only hit while looping a section. If you just hitting play and letting it run with no arrange loop, then it seems to be ok.
As far a I can tell its skipping some midi tick messges when it loops back.
Unfortunately most of the time I want to tweak stuff, bounce it etc, I want to have loop on - Grrrrrr!!!
Ableton please sort this out!
at that point you're arguing Live's groove stuff vs. the MPC's groove stuff and whether it's worth $500+ to get an MPC and experience the mythical, magical mpc swing. you believe that shit or not, it's a neverending argument between fanboys.starving student wrote:sounds intresting td,, could you groove with the mpd32 too?
actualy i was serious, i read a post that i can't seem to find now where someone said something about the mpd32 having some kind of mpc groove features, i'm planning to get one myself if thats the case. i just assumed you had oneTone Deft wrote:at that point you're arguing Live's groove stuff vs. the MPC's groove stuff and whether it's worth $500+ to get an MPC and experience the mythical, magical mpc swing. you believe that shit or not, it's a neverending argument between fanboys.starving student wrote:sounds intresting td,, could you groove with the mpd32 too?
and fanboys says...
Of course Beatmaker isn't anywhere near as sophisticated as Live or the MPC but what it does have over both is the ability to crop the audio file by just dragging your finger across the screen, or maybe the MPC 85000001 does that, dunno.Tone Deft wrote:beats - I'll leave an open input to my studio mixer so we can find out. bring it beyotch!
As an MPC2000 owner (10 years experience), and a Live 7 and MPD32 owner, here is my take on the MPD32:starving student wrote:actualy i was serious, i read a post that i can't seem to find now where someone said something about the mpd32 having some kind of mpc groove features, i'm planning to get one myself if thats the case. i just assumed you had oneTone Deft wrote:at that point you're arguing Live's groove stuff vs. the MPC's groove stuff and whether it's worth $500+ to get an MPC and experience the mythical, magical mpc swing. you believe that shit or not, it's a neverending argument between fanboys.starving student wrote:sounds intresting td,, could you groove with the mpd32 too?
and fanboys says...
