best drums for minimal techno - mnus style?

SimonPHC · Post by **SimonPHC** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:38 am

Johnisfaster wrote:the most amazing song in the world with a crappy kick drum is still going to be amazing.

I'm trying so hard to remember the name of a gabber track right now. Only because it would prove you wrong (in one case

). It just a 4/4 kick, but the kick changes every 4 or 8 beats. It's amazing. Ding ding ding ding TONK TONK TONK TONK BAM BAM BAM BAM etc...

(oh [edit] misread your post. You obviously didn't say a track with just a kick would be horrible)

forge · Post by **forge** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:48 am

sweetjesus wrote:lol @ robert...

i find i use 808 drums a LOT in tech kinda tunes.

yeah these days I find I usually just use the Ableton 'drum machines' 808 or 909 kits in general and it's surprising how much you can do with them - even just with things like compression - playing with the attack and release, maybe transpose the sample to fit with the track, some EQ - maybe some reverb on some sounds, possibly gated - just simple things often provide a lot of mileage

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:52 am

yeah, the Ableton Drum machines are tasty and IMO highly tweakable. I've been really digging those kits.

the All The Breaks collection has also become a staple of mine.

or find some minimal artist you like and sample a bare drum it. when in doubt, STEAL.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:02 am

m:o wrote:
nicklittle wrote:At the end of the day i wouldnt just sample someone elses kicks, isnt the whole point of music to be creative and different...
nah, bullshit. isn't the actual goal in minimal techno to sound like the other
476 releases this week ?!

c'mon, sample the current top 10 sales charts on a given online record store
and go along. Make sure to adopt the patent receipt of clonky shuffle grooves.
they just can't get enough of it......

[/sarcasm]

it's not called sarcasm it's called berlin minimal.

Tweaking Knobs · Post by **Tweaking Knobs** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:32 am

Micirotonic+effects
reaktor
Drumatic for drumkicks.
Any simple synth like operator with noise and sinewaves+ effects

then comes the aesthetic, make them shork,use bitcrushers,play with the decay,tweak it as much as you can.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:48 am

Tweaking Knobs wrote:Micirotonic+effects
reaktor
Drumatic for drumkicks.
Any simple synth like operator with noise and sinewaves+ effects

then comes the aesthetic, make them shork,use bitcrushers,play with the decay,tweak it as much as you can.

= spending more time twiddling efx on the drums then spending time with the music? --- ahhh now i get it. boom tshik boom tshik boom tshik, instead of boomm tchieck boomm tchieck boomm tchieck boomm tchieck, yeah that's a better track much better, definetely!!

gardener · Post by **gardener** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:18 pm

How do you make the shuffle groove, Minus style?

Lux Libra · Post by **Lux Libra** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:42 pm

gardener wrote:How do you make the shuffle groove, Minus style?

i somehow guessed this comes up......

easy : takatakatakatakataka

but watch out and be carefull. today's acceptance of shuffle dance has reached it's lowest point.

Robert Henke · Post by **Robert Henke** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:27 pm

gardener wrote:How do you make the shuffle groove, Minus style?

Uhm.... MIDI Editor ?
Uhm..... Audio Delay ?
Uhm... PLAYING an instrument ???

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????

Gosh, why attempting to make music if this is really a question ?

okay, in case you really have no idea:

Sample a one bar loop from some M_urx release, paste it into the arranger and make sure that one bar in arranger is really one bar of your loop.
Create a MIDI track with a drum rack with some drum sounds and place midi notes in way that they are aligned with the sonic events in the audio track.

And, btw.: some people do spend some month (!!) on a single piece of music, and dedicate years of practice and learning. Just in case you think it all can be done with a snap of a finger.

R.

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:44 pm

Robert is feisty today.

Great!

..and he's right!

.m

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:06 pm

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:Robert is feisty today. Great!

..and he's right!

.m

it's probably the weather today in berlin!?!

Robert Henke · Post by **Robert Henke** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:16 pm

@ SubFunk: Weather in Berlin? You would call that weather ????

r.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:30 pm

nice tip, wanna try that with the Amen break.

massiveheadpain · Post by **massiveheadpain** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:05 pm

if you want to sound like someone else why don't you just sample them?

gardener · Post by **gardener** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:05 pm

gardener wrote:
How do you make the shuffle groove, Minus style?

Uhm.... MIDI Editor ?
Uhm..... Audio Delay ?
Uhm... PLAYING an instrument ???

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????

Gosh, why attempting to make music if this is really a question ?

okay, in case you really have no idea:

Sample a one bar loop from some M_urx release, paste it into the arranger and make sure that one bar in arranger is really one bar of your loop.
Create a MIDI track with a drum rack with some drum sounds and place midi notes in way that they are aligned with the sonic events in the audio track.

And, btw.: some people do spend some month (!!) on a single piece of music, and dedicate years of practice and learning. Just in case you think it all can be done with a snap of a finger.

R.

I was hoping EvilEvilEvil would tell me how!